[Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps Residential FTTH offer - Thoughts?

Robert Nickerson omrob at omsoft.com
Fri May 15 15:22:27 PDT 2015


Hi

I'm a big fan of Sonic. I bet they would be one of the private providers 
on our community owned network.

RAN

On 5/15/2015 2:36 PM, Mike Adams wrote:
> Interesting animation from a Comcast competitor
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSGekVBgJAE
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Tim Starback <tim at active4.me 
> <mailto:tim at active4.me>> wrote:
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>     I assumed that was a Spinal Tap reference ;-)
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o
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>     Tim
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>>     On May 14, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Shneor Sherman via Davisgig
>>     <davisgig at list.omsoft.com <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Agreed! But what does #5 mean ("Ours goes to 11")?
>>     Shneor Sherman
>>     --------------------------------------------
>>     On Thu, 5/14/15, Robert Nickerson via Davisgig
>>     <davisgig at list.omsoft.com <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>> wrote:
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>>     Subject: Re: [Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps Residential FTTH offer -
>>     Thoughts?
>>     To: "davisgig at list.omsoft.com <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>"
>>     <davisgig at list.omsoft.com <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>>
>>     Date: Thursday, May 14, 2015, 11:02 AM
>>
>>
>>         Hi All
>>
>>
>>
>>         Even if this Comcast upgrade happens, it is still
>>     imperative we do
>>         this muni fiber project for Davis
>>
>>
>>
>>         1) Our town owns the muni network, its private to our
>>     town, we will
>>         be able to send data between locations in town for
>>     little costs, and
>>         without having to buy cable tv package :)
>>
>>         2) This is just the monopoly coming in with more
>>     monopoly tactics,
>>         prices and service. Havign an alternative is better
>>     for everyone
>>         for all the competition
>>
>>         reasons we are touting for our own network. Comcast
>>     would lower its
>>         price, for fear  of losing biz to the muni network.
>>
>>         3) Our project will be able to provide a community
>>     revenue stream,
>>         Comcast wont.
>>
>>         4) We can't have big pipe private interconnects to
>>     UCD, DJUSD, or
>>         City for residences/business with comcast
>>
>>         5) Ours goes up to 11.
>>
>>         6) No one needs  to pay $300 per month for Internet
>>     access.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Onward!
>>
>>
>>
>>         Thanks
>>
>>         RAN
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 5/13/2015 11:20 PM,
>>     Shneor Sherman
>>           via Davisgig wrote:
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>>
>>
>>           Yes, and how much water will a sports park need?
>>     And if it's a sports part not usable by every Davis
>>     resident, this is the wrong way to go about paying for it.
>>     Users should pay all the costs if it's exclusive to
>>     them.
>>
>>     Shneor Sherman
>>
>>     --------------------------------------------
>>     On Wed, 5/13/15, Douglas A. Walter via Davisgig
>>     <davisgig at list.omsoft.com <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>>
>>     wrote:
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>>      Subject: Re: [Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps Residential FTTH
>>     offer - Thoughts?
>>      To: davisgig at list.omsoft.com <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>
>>      Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 11:08 PM
>>
>>      I agree with
>>      what Steve and then Shneor wrote. I was mulling the
>>      "Sports park" proposal, and it occurred to me
>>     that
>>      more people would benefit from a gigabit fiber network than
>>      from a number of playing fields. Economically and
>>      educationally, there's much more for kids and local
>>      businesses (even if soccer and baseball teams eat a lot of
>>      oranges and chips, which my employer sells).
>>      On May 13, 2015, at
>>      11:03 PM, Shneor Sherman via Davisgig wrote:
>>      Seems to me the more serious issue is the
>>      mayor's proposed utility users tax on the 2016 ballot.
>>     I
>>      doubt that both that and a parcel tax couls pass. Maybe
>>     this
>>      item could be rolled into the utility tax proposal. That
>>      could also increase the payback time to 30-40 years.
>>
>>      Shneor Sherman
>>      --------------------------------------------
>>      On Wed, 5/13/15, Steve McMahon via Davisgig
>>      <davisgig at list.omsoft.com <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>>
>>      wrote:
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>>       Subject: Re:
>>      [Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps Residential FTTH offer -
>>      Thoughts?
>>       To: "davisgig at list.omsoft.com <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>"
>>      <davisgig at list.omsoft.com <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>>
>>       Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 5:01 PM
>>
>>       I'll
>>
>>      believe it when Comcast starts work on getting the
>>      permits.
>>       Until then, it's FUD to scare
>>      off competition.
>>       As for pricing, I'd
>>      guess $300
>>       if there's no competition
>>      from a municipal offering.
>>       $75-$100 if
>>      there is.
>>       And, of course, with
>>      Comcast's
>>       unrivaled (not in a good way)
>>      service.
>>       On Wed, May 13, 2015 at
>>       4:20 PM, Shneor Sherman via Davisgig <davisgig at list.omsoft.com
>>     <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>>
>>       wrote:
>>       The
>>
>>      quetion is, what would it cost for gigabit service? Do
>>      you
>>       have to subscribe to Comcast cable for
>>      this? Would there
>>       still be metering and
>>      different speeds for different
>>       providers?
>>      Not to mention lousy customer service. So,
>>
>>      maybe.
>>
>>       Shneor Sherman
>>
>>
>>      --------------------------------------------
>>
>>       On Wed, 5/13/15, Robert
>>      Nickerson via Davisgig <davisgig at list.omsoft.com
>>     <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>>
>>       wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>        Subject: [Davisgig] Comcast
>>      2 Gbps Residential FTTH offer
>>       -
>>      Thoughts?
>>
>>        To: "davisgig at list.omsoft.com <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>"
>>       <davisgig at list.omsoft.com <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>>
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>>        Date: Wednesday, May 13,
>>      2015, 4:03 PM
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>>            Hi
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>>            Please take a look
>>      at
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>>     http://corporate.comcast.com/news-information/news-feed/2-gig-internet-california
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>>            Looks like Davis
>>      would be part of the Sacramento
>>       Metro
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>>        Area here.
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>>            Sorry Arbuckle!
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>>            Does anyone think
>>      that a municipal or community
>>       fiber
>>
>>        owned network
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>>       would be appealing after this is available?
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