[Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps Residential FTTH offer - Thoughts?

[Steve McMahon]

Nice! I'd love for us to do a comparable short video that emphasizes how
far behind broadband speeds we are in *Davis*. I really don't think most
folks are aware of that.

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Mike Adams <mike790 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Interesting animation from a Comcast competitor
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSGekVBgJAE
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Tim Starback <tim at active4.me> wrote:
>
>> I assumed that was a Spinal Tap reference ;-)
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o
>>
>> Tim
>>
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>> On May 14, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Shneor Sherman via Davisgig <
>> davisgig at list.omsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> Agreed! But what does #5 mean ("Ours goes to 11")?
>> Shneor Sherman
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Thu, 5/14/15, Robert Nickerson via Davisgig <davisgig at list.omsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps Residential FTTH offer - Thoughts?
>> To: "davisgig at list.omsoft.com" <davisgig at list.omsoft.com>
>> Date: Thursday, May 14, 2015, 11:02 AM
>>
>>
>>     Hi All
>>
>>
>>
>>     Even if this Comcast upgrade happens, it is still
>> imperative we do
>>     this muni fiber project for Davis
>>
>>
>>
>>     1) Our town owns the muni network, its private to our
>> town, we will
>>     be able to send data between locations in town for
>> little costs, and
>>     without having to buy cable tv package :)
>>
>>     2) This is just the monopoly coming in with more
>> monopoly tactics,
>>     prices and service. Havign an alternative is better
>> for everyone
>>     for all the competition
>>
>>     reasons we are touting for our own network. Comcast
>> would lower its
>>     price, for fear  of losing biz to the muni network.
>>
>>     3) Our project will be able to provide a community
>> revenue stream,
>>     Comcast wont.
>>
>>     4) We can't have big pipe private interconnects to
>> UCD, DJUSD, or
>>     City for residences/business with comcast
>>
>>     5) Ours goes up to 11.
>>
>>     6) No one needs  to pay $300 per month for Internet
>> access.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Onward!
>>
>>
>>
>>     Thanks
>>
>>     RAN
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 5/13/2015 11:20 PM,
>> Shneor Sherman
>>       via Davisgig wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>       Yes, and how much water will a sports park need?
>> And if it's a sports part not usable by every Davis
>> resident, this is the wrong way to go about paying for it.
>> Users should pay all the costs if it's exclusive to
>> them.
>>
>> Shneor Sherman
>>
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>> On Wed, 5/13/15, Douglas A. Walter via Davisgig <davisgig at list.omsoft.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Subject: Re: [Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps Residential FTTH
>> offer - Thoughts?
>>  To: davisgig at list.omsoft.com
>>  Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 11:08 PM
>>
>>  I agree with
>>  what Steve and then Shneor wrote. I was mulling the
>>  "Sports park" proposal, and it occurred to me
>> that
>>  more people would benefit from a gigabit fiber network than
>>  from a number of playing fields. Economically and
>>  educationally, there's much more for kids and local
>>  businesses (even if soccer and baseball teams eat a lot of
>>  oranges and chips, which my employer sells).
>>  On May 13, 2015, at
>>  11:03 PM, Shneor Sherman via Davisgig wrote:
>>  Seems to me the more serious issue is the
>>  mayor's proposed utility users tax on the 2016 ballot.
>> I
>>  doubt that both that and a parcel tax couls pass. Maybe
>> this
>>  item could be rolled into the utility tax proposal. That
>>  could also increase the payback time to 30-40 years.
>>
>>  Shneor Sherman
>>  --------------------------------------------
>>  On Wed, 5/13/15, Steve McMahon via Davisgig
>>  <davisgig at list.omsoft.com>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>   Subject: Re:
>>  [Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps Residential FTTH offer -
>>  Thoughts?
>>   To: "davisgig at list.omsoft.com"
>>  <davisgig at list.omsoft.com>
>>   Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 5:01 PM
>>
>>   I'll
>>
>>  believe it when Comcast starts work on getting the
>>  permits.
>>   Until then, it's FUD to scare
>>  off competition.
>>   As for pricing, I'd
>>  guess $300
>>   if there's no competition
>>  from a municipal offering.
>>   $75-$100 if
>>  there is.
>>   And, of course, with
>>  Comcast's
>>   unrivaled (not in a good way)
>>  service.
>>   On Wed, May 13, 2015 at
>>   4:20 PM, Shneor Sherman via Davisgig <davisgig at list.omsoft.com>
>>   wrote:
>>   The
>>
>>  quetion is, what would it cost for gigabit service? Do
>>  you
>>   have to subscribe to Comcast cable for
>>  this? Would there
>>   still be metering and
>>  different speeds for different
>>   providers?
>>  Not to mention lousy customer service. So,
>>
>>  maybe.
>>
>>   Shneor Sherman
>>
>>
>>  --------------------------------------------
>>
>>   On Wed, 5/13/15, Robert
>>  Nickerson via Davisgig <davisgig at list.omsoft.com>
>>   wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>    Subject: [Davisgig] Comcast
>>  2 Gbps Residential FTTH offer
>>   -
>>  Thoughts?
>>
>>    To: "davisgig at list.omsoft.com"
>>   <davisgig at list.omsoft.com>
>>
>>    Date: Wednesday, May 13,
>>  2015, 4:03 PM
>>
>>
>>
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>>        Hi
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>>
>>        Please take a look
>>  at
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>> http://corporate.comcast.com/news-information/news-feed/2-gig-internet-california
>>
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>>
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>>
>>        Looks like Davis
>>  would be part of the Sacramento
>>   Metro
>>
>>    Area here.
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>>        Sorry Arbuckle!
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>>        Does anyone think
>>  that a municipal or community
>>   fiber
>>
>>    owned network
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   would be appealing after this is available?
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