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    Hi <br>
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    I'm a big fan of Sonic. I bet they would be one of the private
    providers on our community owned network. <br>
    <br>
    RAN<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/15/2015 2:36 PM, Mike Adams wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAM8TqNc6e63T2aUesj=B-FstSiuhP3gvSbH0aCMz6i+DAoC3og@mail.gmail.com"
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Interesting
          animation from a Comcast competitor</div>
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            href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSGekVBgJAE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSGekVBgJAE</a><br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Tim
          Starback <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:tim@active4.me" target="_blank">tim@active4.me</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div style="word-wrap:break-word">I assumed that was a
              Spinal Tap reference ;-)
              <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o"
                  target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o</a></div>
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              <div>Tim</div>
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                        <div>On May 14, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Shneor
                          Sherman via Davisgig <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com"
                            target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>>
                          wrote:</div>
                        <br>
                        <div>Agreed! But what does #5 mean ("Ours goes
                          to 11")?<br>
                          Shneor Sherman<br>
                          --------------------------------------------<br>
                          On Thu, 5/14/15, Robert Nickerson via Davisgig
                          <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com"
                            target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
                          <br>
                          Subject: Re: [Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps
                          Residential FTTH offer - Thoughts?<br>
                          To: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com"
                            target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>"
                          <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com"
                            target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br>
                          Date: Thursday, May 14, 2015, 11:02 AM<br>
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                          <br>
                              Hi All <br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                              Even if this Comcast upgrade happens, it
                          is still<br>
                          imperative we do<br>
                              this muni fiber project for Davis<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                              1) Our town owns the muni network, its
                          private to our<br>
                          town, we will<br>
                              be able to send data between locations in
                          town for<br>
                          little costs, and<br>
                              without having to buy cable tv package :)<br>
                          <br>
                              2) This is just the monopoly coming in
                          with more<br>
                          monopoly tactics,<br>
                              prices and service. Havign an alternative
                          is better <br>
                          for everyone<br>
                              for all the competition <br>
                          <br>
                              reasons we are touting for our own
                          network. Comcast<br>
                          would lower its<br>
                              price, for fear  of losing biz to the muni
                          network.<br>
                          <br>
                              3) Our project will be able to provide a
                          community<br>
                          revenue stream,<br>
                              Comcast wont. <br>
                          <br>
                              4) We can't have big pipe private
                          interconnects to<br>
                          UCD, DJUSD, or<br>
                              City for residences/business with comcast<br>
                          <br>
                              5) Ours goes up to 11. <br>
                          <br>
                              6) No one needs  to pay $300 per month for
                          Internet<br>
                          access.<br>
                          <br>
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                              Onward! <br>
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                              Thanks<br>
                          <br>
                              RAN<br>
                          <br>
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                          <br>
                              On 5/13/2015 11:20 PM,<br>
                          Shneor Sherman<br>
                                via Davisgig wrote:<br>
                          <br>
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                          <br>
                                Yes, and how much water will a sports
                          park need?<br>
                          And if it's a sports part not usable by every
                          Davis<br>
                          resident, this is the wrong way to go about
                          paying for it.<br>
                          Users should pay all the costs if it's
                          exclusive to<br>
                          them.<br>
                          <br>
                          Shneor Sherman<br>
                          <br>
                          --------------------------------------------<br>
                          On Wed, 5/13/15, Douglas A. Walter via
                          Davisgig <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com"
                            target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br>
                          wrote:<br>
                          <br>
                           Subject: Re: [Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps
                          Residential FTTH<br>
                          offer - Thoughts?<br>
                           To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com"
                            target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a><br>
                           Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 11:08 PM<br>
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                           I agree with<br>
                           what Steve and then Shneor wrote. I was
                          mulling the<br>
                           "Sports park" proposal, and it occurred to me<br>
                          that<br>
                           more people would benefit from a gigabit
                          fiber network than<br>
                           from a number of playing fields. Economically
                          and<br>
                           educationally, there's much more for kids and
                          local<br>
                           businesses (even if soccer and baseball teams
                          eat a lot of<br>
                           oranges and chips, which my employer sells).<br>
                           On May 13, 2015, at<br>
                           11:03 PM, Shneor Sherman via Davisgig wrote:<br>
                           Seems to me the more serious issue is the<br>
                           mayor's proposed utility users tax on the
                          2016 ballot.<br>
                          I<br>
                           doubt that both that and a parcel tax couls
                          pass. Maybe<br>
                          this<br>
                           item could be rolled into the utility tax
                          proposal. That<br>
                           could also increase the payback time to 30-40
                          years.<br>
                          <br>
                           Shneor Sherman<br>
                           --------------------------------------------<br>
                           On Wed, 5/13/15, Steve McMahon via Davisgig<br>
                           <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com"
                            target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br>
                           wrote:<br>
                          <br>
                            Subject: Re:<br>
                           [Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps Residential FTTH
                          offer -<br>
                           Thoughts?<br>
                            To: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com"
                            target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>"<br>
                           <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com"
                            target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br>
                            Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 5:01 PM<br>
                          <br>
                            I'll<br>
                          <br>
                           believe it when Comcast starts work on
                          getting the<br>
                           permits.<br>
                            Until then, it's FUD to scare<br>
                           off competition.<br>
                            As for pricing, I'd<br>
                           guess $300<br>
                            if there's no competition<br>
                           from a municipal offering.<br>
                            $75-$100 if<br>
                           there is.<br>
                            And, of course, with<br>
                           Comcast's<br>
                            unrivaled (not in a good way)<br>
                           service.<br>
                            On Wed, May 13, 2015 at<br>
                            4:20 PM, Shneor Sherman via Davisgig <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com"
                            target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br>
                            wrote:<br>
                            The<br>
                          <br>
                           quetion is, what would it cost for gigabit
                          service? Do<br>
                           you<br>
                            have to subscribe to Comcast cable for<br>
                           this? Would there<br>
                            still be metering and<br>
                           different speeds for different<br>
                            providers?<br>
                           Not to mention lousy customer service. So,<br>
                          <br>
                           maybe.<br>
                          <br>
                            Shneor Sherman<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                           --------------------------------------------<br>
                          <br>
                            On Wed, 5/13/15, Robert<br>
                           Nickerson via Davisgig <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com"
                            target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br>
                            wrote:<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                             Subject: [Davisgig] Comcast<br>
                           2 Gbps Residential FTTH offer<br>
                            -<br>
                           Thoughts?<br>
                          <br>
                             To: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com"
                            target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>"<br>
                            <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com"
                            target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br>
                          <br>
                             Date: Wednesday, May 13,<br>
                           2015, 4:03 PM<br>
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                                 Looks like Davis<br>
                           would be part of the Sacramento<br>
                            Metro<br>
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                             Area here.<br>
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                                 Does anyone think<br>
                           that a municipal or community<br>
                            fiber<br>
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                             owned network<br>
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                            would be appealing after this is available?<br>
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