[Davisgig] City council meeting 12/01

Jeff Mischkinsky jmischki at dcn.davis.ca.us
Tue Dec 1 18:14:36 PST 2015


hi,
   I’ll go done there and say something along the lines that
I saw this item was on the consent calendar and that while i like the direction
I have some concerns about the “charter” and “make up” of the TF.
   Namely:
     It seems like fiber to davis residences and business ought to be explicitly called out in the TF’s charge. This is going to be very important, etc.  Especially to people like me who are doomed to very slow broadband speed even because i live in east davis and ATT refuses to upgrade their infrastructure — takes me 3 hours to download a MacOS/ios update. Comcast is instituting data caps nationwide.
   Also there ought to be more public participation than is currently called for as this issue directly affects many, many people who are currently paying through the nose for low speed internet.

  So i’d like to ask the Council to address these concerns before the TF’s charter is “set in stone”.

   and just leave it at that.

cheers,
 jeff
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 18:04:02 -0800
> From: Robert Nickerson <rob at omsoft.com>
> To: davisgig at list.omsoft.com, Matthews Williams <mattwill at pacbell.net>
> Subject: Re: [Davisgig] City council meeting 12/01
> Message-ID: <565E5192.9010409 at omsoft.com>
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> 
> Hi
> 
> I spoke with Brett Lee and Diane Parro.
> 
> Brett indicated that there will be flexibility within the task force and 
> we will not necessarily need to rigidly follow what it put forth in this 
> staff report.
> 
> Sounds like we can, at its creation meeting, "bring the group up" on 
> what we have already done to move it along much more quickly,
> and not necessarily carry out all the items it directs if they have been 
> done this year.  Encouraging.
> 
> Diane sounded rushed, as understandable with it being right before a 
> meeting, and so I didn't talk with her much,  aside from the fact that she
>  was not able to get a clear answer on whether or not this needs to be 
> voted on in 06.2016.
> 
> She says it  will likely be approved and not pulled from consent because 
> "its a busy night," though I wouldn't know why that would be.
> 
> Whats really great is to see such a tremendous response from everyone on 
> this list here, that has put care,
> thought, and energy into their responses and emails to council.
> 
> So Jeff if you want to go ad make an initial public comment before 
> consent calendat,, you might want to remind the council that our
> citizen group has done a lot of planning and public outreach work around 
> fiber optic already, and encourage
> them to make sure their task force makes use of that, b/c time is of the 
> essence.
> 
> Tell them too, its good for you and good for Davis.
> 
> Thx
> RAN
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/1/2015 4:57 PM, Jeff Mischkinsky wrote:
>> Hi,
>>     I just read through the blizzard of messages.
>>    I'm available to go to the CC meeting this evening.
>> (Public comment?) and advocate, if we know what it is we want.
>>    Asking for specific and positive actions/goals of course works best. :-)
>>    Calling me is probably best at this time. 530-758-9850.
>>    Cheers
>>     Jeff
>> 
>> Jeff Mischkinsky
>> 530-758-9850
>> 
>>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 4:32 PM,davisgig-request at list.omsoft.com  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Today's Topics:
>>> 
>>>   1. Fw: Broadband Update to City Council (Shneor Sherman)
>>>   2. Re: Davisgig Digest, Vol 13, Issue 8 (Robert Nickerson)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 00:08:50 +0000 (UTC)
>>> From: Shneor Sherman<szsherm at yahoo.com>
>>> To:"davisgig at list.omsoft.com"  <davisgig at list.omsoft.com>
>>> Subject: [Davisgig] Fw: Broadband Update to City Council
>>> Message-ID:
>>>    <203398535.13755772.1449014930192.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>> 
>>> Here's a copy of the reply I received from Diane Parro:
>>> 
>>>> --- On Tue, 12/1/15, Diane Parro<DParro at cityofdavis.org>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Diane Parro<DParro at cityofdavis.org>
>>>> Subject: Broadband Update to City Council
>>>> To:"'szsherm at yahoo.com'"  <szsherm at yahoo.com>
>>>> Cc: "Dirk Brazil"<DBrazil at cityofdavis.org>, "Rochelle Swanson"<RSwanson at cityofdavis.org>, "Robb Davis"<RDavis at cityofdavis.org>, "Lucas Frerichs"<lucasf at cityofdavis.org>, "Brett Lee"<BLee at cityofdavis.org>, "Dan Wolk"<DWolk at cityofdavis.org>, "Kelly Stachowicz"<KStachowicz at cityofdavis.org>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2015, 3:06 PM
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Mr. Sherman,
>>>> ?
>>>> I received your email from
>>>> our City Manager, Dirk Brazil, and appreciate your interest
>>>> in broadband.? I have been working very closely with
>>>> Rob Nickerson and a few other members of of DavisGig and
>>>> have attended the community meetings that
>>>> have occurred since I joined the City.? They are a
>>>> fantastic group and we have very fortunate to have a group
>>>> of community advocates already working to support increasing
>>>> broadband service in Davis.
>>>> ?
>>>> I think your suggestions
>>>> are aligned with the recommended actions as proposed to
>>>> Council.? If approved, the Broadband Advisory Task
>>>> Force will work on the tasks as you request in your
>>>> email.? DavisGig is, in fact, suggested to select a
>>>> member to serve on the Broadband Task Force so that we may
>>>> have the benefit of all they have accomplished to
>>>> date.?
>>>> 
>>>> ?
>>>> If you have more ideas or
>>>> suggestions to share with me about this topic, please feel
>>>> free to email me directly or call me at either of the
>>>> telephone numbers shown below.
>>>> ?
>>>> Many Thanks,
>>>> Diane
>>>> ?
>>>> 
>>>> ?
>>>> Diane Parro
>>>> Chief Innovation
>>>> Officer
>>>> City of Davis
>>>> (530) 747-5803 office
>>>> (530) 220-3092 mobile
>>>> dparro at cityofdavis.org
>>>> 
>>>> www.cityofdavis  
>>>> ?
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:32:12 -0800
>>> From: Robert Nickerson<rob at omsoft.com>
>>> To:davisgig at list.omsoft.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Davisgig] Davisgig Digest, Vol 13, Issue 8
>>> Message-ID:<565E3C0C.6070205 at omsoft.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
>>> 
>>> Hi Christine -
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 12/1/2015 1:28 PM, Christine Crawford wrote:
>>>> The City needs to do a detailed study that will look at the business
>>>> case for a municipal fiber system. The City cannot propose a public
>>>> bond measure without more detailed cost analysis to back up a bond
>>>> amount, which is what is envisioned in the staff report. Or perhaps
>>>> there are other financing options that need to be considered.
>>> We agree. We need a feasability study report weighing various options on
>>> implementing fiber optic in Davis.  We are prepared to get that RFP bid
>>> out and started through donations raside by our 501c3 non profit, DCN
>>> and DavisGIG volunteers so this task force can review it and make
>>> recommendations.
>>> 
>>> What we don't want is to get trapped in a lot of surveys, meetings, and
>>> repeat a lot of what DavisGIG has already accomplished over the year,
>>> and THEN put out a call for this FSR. Better save City money to go into
>>> preliminary engineering of whatever the recommended option the task
>>> force choses based up a thorough study of the FSR balanced against
>>> finances and needs.
>>>> The Task Force would help provide City staff technical expertise and
>>>> direction to that end. If folks want to make comments about ensuring
>>>> the task force is focused on this goal and not being unproductive
>>>> listening to anecdotal stories, that's fine. But asking for a delay
>>>> will just be another delay.
>>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>> 
>>> RAN
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:15 PM, <davisgig-request at list.omsoft.com  
>>>> <mailto:davisgig-request at list.omsoft.com>> wrote:
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    Today's Topics:
>>>> 
>>>>       1. Re: City of Davis Staff Report on Broadband Released     &
>>>>          Article about El Macero (Shneor Sherman)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>>    Message: 1
>>>>    Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 21:15:21 +0000 (UTC)
>>>>    From: Shneor Sherman <szsherm at yahoo.com  <mailto:szsherm at yahoo.com>>
>>>>    To: Robert Nickerson <omrob at omsoft.com  <mailto:omrob at omsoft.com>>,
>>>>          Gary Darling
>>>>            <gary_darling at sbcglobal.net
>>>>    <mailto:gary_darling at sbcglobal.net>>
>>>>    Cc: <davisgig at list.omsoft.com  <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>>
>>>>    Subject: Re: [Davisgig] City of Davis Staff Report on Broadband
>>>>            Released        &       Article about El Macero
>>>>    Message-ID:
>>>> 
>>>>    <1147885609.13668795.1449004521553.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com
>>>>    <mailto:1147885609.13668795.1449004521553.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com>>
>>>>    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>> 
>>>>    A delay is only worthwhile if the council directs city staff to
>>>>    work with DavisGig. Otherwise, it would most likely be wasted
>>>>    time. City staff are already committed to their proposal, and
>>>>    without direction will see no reason to change anything.
>>>> 
>>>>    Other options would be to email city council members now, to
>>>>    prepare them. The more emails, the better.
>>>> 
>>>>    Shneor Sherman
>>>>    --------------------------------------------
>>>>    On Tue, 12/1/15, Gary Darling <gary_darling at sbcglobal.net
>>>>    <mailto:gary_darling at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>     Subject: Re: [Davisgig] City of Davis Staff Report on Broadband
>>>>    Released &     Article about El Macero
>>>>     To: "Robert Nickerson" <omrob at omsoft.com  <mailto:omrob at omsoft.com>>
>>>>     Cc:davisgig at list.omsoft.com  <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>
>>>>     Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2015, 12:48 PM
>>>> 
>>>>     Robert et.
>>>>     al,?
>>>>     Asking for a delay was what I was
>>>>     going to suggest also. A task force is a normal governmental
>>>>     process for an issue like this. It is not the only way to
>>>>     get this done but I don?t think that we can arrive at
>>>>     another alternative that has support even within our small
>>>>     group in the time remaining.
>>>> 
>>>>     ? ? ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
>>>>     ??Gary
>>>> 
>>>>     On Dec 1,
>>>>     2015, at 12:04 PM, Robert Nickerson <omrob at omsoft.com
>>>>    <mailto:omrob at omsoft.com>>
>>>>     wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>         Hi
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>         Thanks for your? comments on voting for a?
>>>>     bond Steve, I would say
>>>>         any regular election is great. So that adds more dates
>>>>     to a possible
>>>>         calendar aside from? 6/2016 or 6/2018.
>>>> 
>>>>         So now we have to see if there is some Davis ordinance
>>>>     that
>>>>         supersedes this State of California law I assume?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    http://qcode.us/codes/davis/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>         Throughout this year at many meetings you all have been
>>>>     involved
>>>>         with, we have asked the City Staff to move this forward,
>>>>     and
>>>>         expressed the urgency of the need.
>>>> 
>>>>         The task force is great, I just am concerned with what
>>>>     it is being
>>>>         asked to do right now in this staff report document.
>>>> 
>>>>         ?
>>>> 
>>>>         Things like conduct a survey, hold a public outreach
>>>>     event,
>>>>         interview persons, that is rehashing what has happened
>>>>     over this
>>>>         year.
>>>> 
>>>>         I think this task force should be about municipal fiber
>>>>     optic for
>>>>         Davis, and not lets evaluate broadband connection types,
>>>>     and gather
>>>>         lots of subjective
>>>> 
>>>>         ?anecdotal comments about peoples broadband
>>>>     experiences.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>         So perhaps not an alternative plan, just ask for some
>>>>     time to work
>>>>         with Staff to change the scope of the Task Force and
>>>>     what it hopes
>>>>         to accomplish.
>>>> 
>>>>         Which would mean asking them to consider some amendments
>>>>     to the
>>>>         scope and work of the task force either before its voted
>>>>     on tonight,
>>>>         at
>>>> 
>>>>         ?public comment or asking it be postponed?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>         I should be talking to DP this afternoon and Ill?
>>>>     post after that.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>         Thanks
>>>> 
>>>>         RAN
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>         On 12/1/2015
>>>>     10:12 AM, Douglas A.
>>>>           Walter wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>           In no way attacking City
>>>>     staff or Gary Darling, I think this
>>>>             advice is a big step towards giving up the dream of
>>>>     a gigabit
>>>>             municipal fiber network.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>           I'm not sold on my
>>>>     "better alternative," but since the slow
>>>>             task force is a slow death, I'll suggest this
>>>>     instead:
>>>>           This
>>>>               proposal calls for a second timeline to be started
>>>>     in July,
>>>>               2016 for policy revisions, public hearings,
>>>>     etc.?That's going
>>>>               to mean the City will have nothing in place for
>>>>     when the
>>>>               Comcast franchise agreement expires in 2018. The
>>>>     City Council
>>>>               should instead direct staff to explore a revenue
>>>>     bond or
>>>>               utility tax measure to fund deployment of gigabit
>>>>     fiber to the
>>>>               home (and office and school, etc.).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>           Thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>               On Dec 1, 2015, at 9:57
>>>>     AM, Gary Darling wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>                 It?s the
>>>>                   role of staff to offer alternatives to the
>>>>     council and I
>>>>                   too have found them to be very professional.
>>>>     Given the
>>>>                   many ways that this network might play out it
>>>>     is wise to
>>>>                   have a citizen?s advisory body with
>>>>     technical expertise
>>>>                   appointed and up to speed. The task force is a
>>>>     reasonable
>>>>                   thing to form at this juncture - I think we
>>>>     should have
>>>>                   asked for this body early on to avoid the
>>>>     timing problems
>>>>                   that now face the city. If we ask to take the
>>>>     task force
>>>>                   item off of the consent calendar we will need
>>>>     to decide
>>>>                   what we would ask for instead and have broad
>>>>     agreement
>>>>                   between us on the new strategy. If someone has
>>>>     an
>>>>                   alternative suggest it now, and let?s
>>>>     discuss. Otherwise
>>>>                   we should just let the task force go forward
>>>>     as a consent
>>>>                   item and do what we can to assure that the
>>>>     group serves
>>>>                   the public good.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>                   ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ?
>>>>                     ? ? ? ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ??Gary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>                         On Dec 1,
>>>>     2015, at 8:44 AM, Steve
>>>>                           McMahon <steve at dcn.org  <mailto:steve at dcn.org>>
>>>>                           wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>                           The composition of the
>>>>                             task force will also be very
>>>>     important, and we
>>>>                             should keep an eye on the selection
>>>>     process.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>                             In
>>>>     particular, we'll want to make
>>>>                               sure that nobody is appointed who
>>>>     has a direct
>>>>                               or indirect financial connection
>>>>     to the cable
>>>>                               industry or works in any position
>>>>     funded via
>>>>                               cable franchise funds.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>                             On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at
>>>>                               2:03 AM, Russell Neches
>>>>    <russell at vort.org  <mailto:russell at vort.org>>
>>>>                               wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>                               I agree
>>>>     with
>>>>                                 this general assessment. I have
>>>>     alway been
>>>>                                 taken aback by
>>>> 
>>>>                                 how conservative the city staff
>>>>     is. It makes
>>>>                                 for a weird contrast with
>>>> 
>>>>                                 the city polity. They are,
>>>>     nevertheless,
>>>>                                 extremely professional.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>                                 It's critical to have
>>>>     support of the
>>>>                                 Council, preferably
>>>>     unanimously.
>>>> 
>>>>                                 If there are any council members
>>>>     opposed, we
>>>>                                 need to figure out why,
>>>> 
>>>>                                 and what to do about it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>                                     Russell
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>                                     On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 08:09
>>>>     +0000,
>>>>                                     Shneor Sherman via Davisgig
>>>>     wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Once again, I have to
>>>>     say that if
>>>>                                     individual city council
>>>>     members are
>>>> 
>>>>> not on board, nothing
>>>>     will
>>>>                                     happen.If anyone is
>>>>     acquainted with any
>>>> 
>>>>> city council member,
>>>>     please have a
>>>>                                     conversation with them about
>>>>     this.
>>>> 
>>>>> We have made a pretty
>>>>     good rough
>>>>                                     cost estimate of $30
>>>>     million. We
>>>> 
>>>>> don't necessarily
>>>>     need a bond, as a
>>>>                                     utility tax will do just as
>>>>     well.
>>>> 
>>>>> The franchise, as far
>>>>     as I
>>>>                                     understand, applies just to
>>>>     the city and
>>>> 
>>>>> school district.
>>>>     Pulling the item
>>>>                                     off the consent
>>>>     calendar? is
>>>> 
>>>>> definitely the best way
>>>>     to go. City
>>>>                                     staff might be pro
>>>>     comcast
>>>> 
>>>>> (status quo), if they
>>>>     have any
>>>>                                     position at all. That's
>>>>     why educated
>>>> 
>>>>> city council direction
>>>>     is vital.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Shneor Sherman
>>>>     --------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, 11/30/15, Steve
>>>>     McMahon
>>>>                                     <steve at dcn.org
>>>>    <mailto:steve at dcn.org>>
>>>>                                     wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? Subject: Re:
>>>>     [Davisgig] City of
>>>>                                     Davis Staff Report on
>>>>     Broadband
>>>> 
>>>>> Released & Article
>>>>     about El
>>>>                                     Macero
>>>> 
>>>>> ? To: "Robert
>>>>     Nickerson @ Omsoft"
>>>>                                     <omrob at omsoft.com
>>>>    <mailto:omrob at omsoft.com>>
>>>> 
>>>>> ? Cc: "davisgig at list.omsoft.com
>>>>    <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>"
>>>>                                     <davisgig at list.omsoft.com
>>>>    <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>>
>>>> 
>>>>> ? Date: Monday,
>>>>     November 30, 2015,
>>>>                                     9:56 PM
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? I think
>>>>> ? the possibility
>>>>     of a Spring 2016
>>>>                                     measure was ruled out the
>>>> 
>>>>> ? moment that we
>>>>     knew we would have
>>>>                                     other financial matters
>>>>     on
>>>> 
>>>>> ? the ballot.
>>>>     Nobody wants multiple
>>>>                                     tax measures before the
>>>> 
>>>>> ? voters at the
>>>>     same time. The risk
>>>>                                     of everything failing is
>>>> 
>>>>> ? too high.
>>>>> ? I see this as
>>>>     a
>>>> 
>>>>> ? reminder that the
>>>>     interests of the
>>>>                                     institutional city and
>>>> 
>>>>> ? the staff are not
>>>>     identical with
>>>>                                     ours. We need to make
>>>>     sure
>>>> 
>>>>> ? that the creation
>>>>     of a task force
>>>>                                     does not eliminate or
>>>>     even
>>>> 
>>>>> ? reduce activist
>>>>     efforts. There
>>>>                                     needs to be some pressure
>>>> 
>>>>> ? from the outside.
>>>>     This will help
>>>>                                     keep a task force that
>>>>     may
>>>> 
>>>>> ? well have some
>>>>     pro-cable or
>>>>                                     anti-tax representatives
>>>> 
>>>>> ? honest.
>>>>> ? Whether the
>>>>> ? item gets pulled
>>>>     from consent or
>>>>                                     not, I don't think it
>>>> 
>>>>> ? would hurt to
>>>>     have some speakers
>>>>                                     pushing for an aggressive
>>>> 
>>>>> ? timetable and a
>>>>     high priority.
>>>> 
>>>>> ? On Mon, Nov 30,
>>>>     2015 at
>>>> 
>>>>> ? 9:24 PM, Robert
>>>>     Nickerson <omrob at omsoft.com  <mailto:omrob at omsoft.com>>
>>>> 
>>>>> ? wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     Hi
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     Yeah so anyone else please
>>>>                                     give it a neutral read,
>>>>     is
>>>> 
>>>>> ? our
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     characterization misplaced, in
>>>>                                     regards to this report
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ?? Don't
>>>>     want
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ? to
>>>>     mess up our graduation to
>>>>                                     task force status,
>>>> 
>>>>> ? but...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     Could be we have to queue up
>>>>                                     in the public comment
>>>> 
>>>>> ? tomorrow and
>>>>     ask
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ? to
>>>>     be removed from consent.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     I've emailed the city staff
>>>>                                     about the document and
>>>> 
>>>>> ? its priorities
>>>>     to
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ? see
>>>>     if I can get more
>>>>                                     understanding and clarity
>>>> 
>>>>> ? verbally.
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     I'll post results tomorrow.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     RAN
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ? On
>>>>     11/30/2015 8:22 PM, Douglas
>>>>                                     A.
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? Walter wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? Hi. It seems clear to me
>>>>                                     that we should
>>>> 
>>>>> ? not let the
>>>>     current
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? Council accept the staff
>>>>                                     recommendation. I would
>>>> 
>>>>> ? argue that in
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? 2018, when the Comcast
>>>>                                     franchise agreement
>>>>     expires,
>>>> 
>>>>> ? the
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? City+Schools will feel
>>>>                                     desperate to assure that
>>>> 
>>>>> ? their pipes to
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? the Internet don't get cut
>>>>                                     off (or busted back
>>>> 
>>>>> ? to modem
>>>>     speeds),
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? and that will help
>>>>                                     Comcast's negotiating
>>>> 
>>>>> ? position on
>>>>     franchise
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? renewal. I haven't taken
>>>>                                     the time to read the
>>>> 
>>>>> ? report, but
>>>>     does
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? it not sound like this is
>>>>                                     a very important deciding
>>>> 
>>>>> ? point?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? I'd say NO to the timeline,
>>>>                                     and no to the
>>>> 
>>>>> ? Task Force as
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? proposed.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? On Nov 30, 2015, at 7:53
>>>>                                     PM, Robert
>>>> 
>>>>> ? Nickerson
>>>>     wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ?Hi
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? I can only agree on
>>>>                                     that, now that I have
>>>>     read
>>>> 
>>>>> ? this over.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? The last interactions
>>>>                                     I've had with the
>>>>     City
>>>> 
>>>>> ? Staff have
>>>>     been
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? negative
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? on having a June 2016
>>>>                                     vote because of the
>>>> 
>>>>> ? competing tax
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? measure,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? ?and they suggested
>>>>                                     11/2016 as more
>>>> 
>>>>> ? appropriate.
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? ? ked them to look
>>>>                                     into the reported
>>>> 
>>>>> ? requirement that
>>>>     an
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? election where there
>>>>                                     is a bond issue
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? needed to be a city
>>>>                                     council election, and
>>>>     have
>>>> 
>>>>> ? received no
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? definitive answer.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? ?Looks like this task
>>>>                                     force is a step back from
>>>> 
>>>>> ? even getting
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? municipal Fiber optic,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? ?but more? focused on
>>>>                                     studying broadband in
>>>> 
>>>>> ? Davis,? and
>>>>     a
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? lot of extra effort.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? Anyone have any ideas
>>>>                                     on what to do with this ?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? The staff report and
>>>>                                     recommendation will be
>>>> 
>>>>> ? presented as a
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? consent item tomorrow
>>>>                                     at the city council.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? P.S. How does this
>>>>                                     relate to the Sports
>>>> 
>>>>> ? Complex?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? On 11/30/2015 11:34
>>>>                                     AM, Shneor
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? ? Sherman wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ? ? ? ? The timeline will
>>>>                                     not allow for a 2016
>>>> 
>>>>> ? referendum or any
>>>>     popular vote in
>>>>                                     2016. This proposal calls
>>>> 
>>>>> ? for a second
>>>>     timeline to be
>>>>                                     started in July, 2016 for
>>>>     policy
>>>> 
>>>>> ? revisions, public
>>>>     hearings, etc.
>>>>                                     It's probably more
>>>> 
>>>>> ? realistic to look
>>>>     at 2018, when
>>>>                                     Comcast's franchise
>>>> 
>>>>> ? expires.
>>>>> ? Shneor Sherman
>>>>> ?
>>>>     --------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>>> ? On Mon, 11/30/15,
>>>>     Robert Nickerson
>>>>                                     <rob at omsoft.com
>>>>    <mailto:rob at omsoft.com>>
>>>> 
>>>>> ? wrote:
>>>>> ? ?Subject:
>>>>     [Davisgig] City of Davis
>>>>                                     Staff Report on Broadband
>>>> 
>>>>> ? Released &
>>>>     Article about El
>>>>                                     Macero
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ?To:
>>>>     "davisgig at list.omsoft.com  <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>"
>>>> 
>>>>> ? <davisgig at list.omsoft.com
>>>>    <mailto:davisgig at list.omsoft.com>>
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ?Date:
>>>>     Monday, November 30, 2015,
>>>>                                     11:08 AM
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?Hi All
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?1) Thanks to all your
>>>>                                     efforts, we have a council
>>>>     item
>>>> 
>>>>> ? on
>>>>> ? ?the
>>>>     consent
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?calendar for Tues Dec 1
>>>>                                     meeting to recommend
>>>>     Davis
>>>> 
>>>>> ? adopt
>>>>> ? ?the Yolo
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?Broadband Plan and make a
>>>>                                     Task Force to help the
>>>>     city
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ?decide what
>>>>     is
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?best to do for Davis for
>>>>                                     fiber.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?A copy of the staff report is
>>>>                                     here:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?http://documents.cityofdavis.org/Media/Default/Documents/PDF/Ci
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>     tyCouncil/CouncilMeetings/Agendas/20151201/05F-Broadband-Update.pdf
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?Its a rather large document
>>>>                                     because it has the Yolo
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ?Broadband
>>>>     Plan
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?attached to it. The details
>>>>                                     about the Task force are
>>>>     in
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ?the
>>>>     first
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?pages.? I don't think this
>>>>                                     would have materialized
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ?at all at
>>>>     the
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?City level without everyone
>>>>                                     being a force, and asking
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ?for and
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?delivering on meetings, and
>>>>                                     Public Outreach.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?2) An article about community
>>>>                                     businesses funding an
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ?Upgrade for
>>>>     El
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?Macero -
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ?
>>>>    ?http://www.davisenterprise.com/business/real-estate-company-enhance
>>>> 
>>>>     s-el-maceros-internet-connectivity/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?Does anyone have any insight
>>>>                                     on whether this is really
>>>> 
>>>>> ? a
>>>>> ? ?Fiber
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?deployment or just paying a
>>>>                                     deposit to fund a build
>>>>     out
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ?by
>>>>     Comcast?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ?--
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ? ? ?
>>>>     ? ?Rob Nickerson
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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