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    Hi Christine - <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/1/2015 1:28 PM, Christine
      Crawford wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAC=FYYhV2H6mbZdiCWV4X+OOHC3N9Esv03QeT1iiaWD3Obp4cg@mail.gmail.com"
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        <div>The City needs to do a detailed study that will look at the
          business case for a municipal fiber system. The City cannot
          propose a public bond measure without more detailed cost
          analysis to back up a bond amount, which is what is envisioned
          in the staff report. Or perhaps there are other financing
          options that need to be considered. </div>
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    </blockquote>
    We agree. We need a feasability study report weighing various
    options on implementing fiber optic in Davis.  We are prepared to
    get that RFP bid out and started through donations raside by our
    501c3 non profit, DCN and DavisGIG volunteers so this task force can
    review it and make recommendations. <br>
    <br>
    What we don't want is to get trapped in a lot of surveys, meetings,
    and repeat a lot of what DavisGIG has already accomplished over the
    year, and THEN put out a call for this FSR. Better save City money
    to go into preliminary engineering of whatever the recommended
    option the task force choses based up a thorough study of the FSR
    balanced against finances and needs. <br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAC=FYYhV2H6mbZdiCWV4X+OOHC3N9Esv03QeT1iiaWD3Obp4cg@mail.gmail.com"
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        <div>The Task Force would help provide City staff technical
          expertise and direction to that end. If folks want to make
          comments about ensuring the task force is focused on this goal
          and not being unproductive listening to anecdotal stories,
          that's fine. But asking for a delay will just be another
          delay. </div>
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    <br>
    Thanks for your thoughts. <br>
    <br>
    RAN<br>
    <br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:15 PM, <span
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               1. Re: City of Davis Staff Report on Broadband Released 
                &<br>
                  Article about El Macero (Shneor Sherman)<br>
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            Message: 1<br>
            Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 21:15:21 +0000 (UTC)<br>
            From: Shneor Sherman <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:szsherm@yahoo.com">szsherm@yahoo.com</a>><br>
            To: Robert Nickerson <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:omrob@omsoft.com">omrob@omsoft.com</a>>, 
                  Gary Darling<br>
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            Subject: Re: [Davisgig] City of Davis Staff Report on
            Broadband<br>
                    Released        &       Article about El Macero<br>
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            A delay is only worthwhile if the council directs city staff
            to work with DavisGig. Otherwise, it would most likely be
            wasted time. City staff are already committed to their
            proposal, and without direction will see no reason to change
            anything.<br>
            <br>
            Other options would be to email city council members now, to
            prepare them. The more emails, the better.<br>
            <br>
            Shneor Sherman<br>
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            On Tue, 12/1/15, Gary Darling <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:gary_darling@sbcglobal.net">gary_darling@sbcglobal.net</a>>
            wrote:<br>
            <br>
             Subject: Re: [Davisgig] City of Davis Staff Report on
            Broadband Released &     Article about El Macero<br>
             To: "Robert Nickerson" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:omrob@omsoft.com">omrob@omsoft.com</a>><br>
             Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a><br>
             Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2015, 12:48 PM<br>
            <br>
             Robert et.<br>
             al,?<br>
             Asking for a delay was what I was<br>
             going to suggest also. A task force is a normal
            governmental<br>
             process for an issue like this. It is not the only way to<br>
             get this done but I don?t think that we can arrive at<br>
             another alternative that has support even within our small<br>
             group in the time remaining.<br>
            <br>
             ? ? ? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
             ??Gary<br>
            <br>
             On Dec 1,<br>
             2015, at 12:04 PM, Robert Nickerson <<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:omrob@omsoft.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:omrob@omsoft.com">omrob@omsoft.com</a></a>><br>
             wrote:<br>
            <br>
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            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                 Hi<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                 Thanks for your? comments on voting for a?<br>
             bond Steve, I would say<br>
                 any regular election is great. So that adds more dates<br>
             to a possible<br>
                 calendar aside from? 6/2016 or 6/2018.<br>
            <br>
                 So now we have to see if there is some Davis ordinance<br>
             that<br>
                 supersedes this State of California law I assume?<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              rel="noreferrer">http://qcode.us/codes/davis/</a><br>
            <br>
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            <br>
                 Throughout this year at many meetings you all have been<br>
             involved<br>
                 with, we have asked the City Staff to move this
            forward,<br>
             and<br>
                 expressed the urgency of the need.<br>
            <br>
                 The task force is great, I just am concerned with what<br>
             it is being<br>
                 asked to do right now in this staff report document.<br>
            <br>
                 ?<br>
            <br>
                 Things like conduct a survey, hold a public outreach<br>
             event,<br>
                 interview persons, that is rehashing what has happened<br>
             over this<br>
                 year.<br>
            <br>
                 I think this task force should be about municipal fiber<br>
             optic for<br>
                 Davis, and not lets evaluate broadband connection
            types,<br>
             and gather<br>
                 lots of subjective<br>
            <br>
                 ?anecdotal comments about peoples broadband<br>
             experiences.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                 So perhaps not an alternative plan, just ask for some<br>
             time to work<br>
                 with Staff to change the scope of the Task Force and<br>
             what it hopes<br>
                 to accomplish.<br>
            <br>
                 Which would mean asking them to consider some
            amendments<br>
             to the<br>
                 scope and work of the task force either before its
            voted<br>
             on tonight,<br>
                 at<br>
            <br>
                 ?public comment or asking it be postponed?<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                 I should be talking to DP this afternoon and Ill?<br>
             post after that.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                 Thanks<br>
            <br>
                 RAN<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                 On 12/1/2015<br>
             10:12 AM, Douglas A.<br>
                   Walter wrote:<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                   In no way attacking City<br>
             staff or Gary Darling, I think this<br>
                     advice is a big step towards giving up the dream of<br>
             a gigabit<br>
                     municipal fiber network.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                   I'm not sold on my<br>
             "better alternative," but since the slow<br>
                     task force is a slow death, I'll suggest this<br>
             instead:<br>
                   This<br>
                       proposal calls for a second timeline to be
            started<br>
             in July,<br>
                       2016 for policy revisions, public hearings,<br>
             etc.?That's going<br>
                       to mean the City will have nothing in place for<br>
             when the<br>
                       Comcast franchise agreement expires in 2018. The<br>
             City Council<br>
                       should instead direct staff to explore a revenue<br>
             bond or<br>
                       utility tax measure to fund deployment of gigabit<br>
             fiber to the<br>
                       home (and office and school, etc.).<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                   Thoughts?<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                       On Dec 1, 2015, at 9:57<br>
             AM, Gary Darling wrote:<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                         It?s the<br>
                           role of staff to offer alternatives to the<br>
             council and I<br>
                           too have found them to be very professional.<br>
             Given the<br>
                           many ways that this network might play out it<br>
             is wise to<br>
                           have a citizen?s advisory body with<br>
             technical expertise<br>
                           appointed and up to speed. The task force is
            a<br>
             reasonable<br>
                           thing to form at this juncture - I think we<br>
             should have<br>
                           asked for this body early on to avoid the<br>
             timing problems<br>
                           that now face the city. If we ask to take the<br>
             task force<br>
                           item off of the consent calendar we will need<br>
             to decide<br>
                           what we would ask for instead and have broad<br>
             agreement<br>
                           between us on the new strategy. If someone
            has<br>
             an<br>
                           alternative suggest it now, and let?s<br>
             discuss. Otherwise<br>
                           we should just let the task force go forward<br>
             as a consent<br>
                           item and do what we can to assure that the<br>
             group serves<br>
                           the public good.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                           ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ?<br>
                             ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ??Gary<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                                 On Dec 1,<br>
             2015, at 8:44 AM, Steve<br>
                                   McMahon <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:steve@dcn.org">steve@dcn.org</a>><br>
                                   wrote:<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                                   The composition of the<br>
                                     task force will also be very<br>
             important, and we<br>
                                     should keep an eye on the selection<br>
             process.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                                     In<br>
             particular, we'll want to make<br>
                                       sure that nobody is appointed who<br>
             has a direct<br>
                                       or indirect financial connection<br>
             to the cable<br>
                                       industry or works in any position<br>
             funded via<br>
                                       cable franchise funds.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                                     On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at<br>
                                       2:03 AM, Russell Neches <<a
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                                       wrote:<br>
            <br>
                                       I agree<br>
             with<br>
                                         this general assessment. I have<br>
             alway been<br>
                                         taken aback by<br>
            <br>
                                         how conservative the city staff<br>
             is. It makes<br>
                                         for a weird contrast with<br>
            <br>
                                         the city polity. They are,<br>
             nevertheless,<br>
                                         extremely professional.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                                         It's critical to have<br>
             support of the<br>
                                         Council, preferably<br>
             unanimously.<br>
            <br>
                                         If there are any council
            members<br>
             opposed, we<br>
                                         need to figure out why,<br>
            <br>
                                         and what to do about it.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                                             Russell<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
                                             On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 08:09<br>
             +0000,<br>
                                             Shneor Sherman via Davisgig<br>
             wrote:<br>
            <br>
                                             > Once again, I have to<br>
             say that if<br>
                                             individual city council<br>
             members are<br>
            <br>
                                             > not on board, nothing<br>
             will<br>
                                             happen.If anyone is<br>
             acquainted with any<br>
            <br>
                                             > city council member,<br>
             please have a<br>
                                             conversation with them
            about<br>
             this.<br>
            <br>
                                             > We have made a pretty<br>
             good rough<br>
                                             cost estimate of $30<br>
             million. We<br>
            <br>
                                             > don't necessarily<br>
             need a bond, as a<br>
                                             utility tax will do just as<br>
             well.<br>
            <br>
                                             > The franchise, as far<br>
             as I<br>
                                             understand, applies just to<br>
             the city and<br>
            <br>
                                             > school district.<br>
             Pulling the item<br>
                                             off the consent<br>
             calendar? is<br>
            <br>
                                             > definitely the best
            way<br>
             to go. City<br>
                                             staff might be pro<br>
             comcast<br>
            <br>
                                             > (status quo), if they<br>
             have any<br>
                                             position at all. That's<br>
             why educated<br>
            <br>
                                             > city council direction<br>
             is vital.<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             > Shneor Sherman<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
             --------------------------------------------<br>
            <br>
                                             > On Mon, 11/30/15,
            Steve<br>
             McMahon<br>
                                             <<a
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                                             wrote:<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? Subject: Re:<br>
             [Davisgig] City of<br>
                                             Davis Staff Report on<br>
             Broadband<br>
            <br>
                                             > Released & Article<br>
             about El<br>
                                             Macero<br>
            <br>
                                             >? To: "Robert<br>
             Nickerson @ Omsoft"<br>
                                             <<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:omrob@omsoft.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:omrob@omsoft.com">omrob@omsoft.com</a></a>><br>
            <br>
                                             >? Cc: "<a
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            <br>
                                             >? Date: Monday,<br>
             November 30, 2015,<br>
                                             9:56 PM<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? I think<br>
            <br>
                                             >? the possibility<br>
             of a Spring 2016<br>
                                             measure was ruled out the<br>
            <br>
                                             >? moment that we<br>
             knew we would have<br>
                                             other financial matters<br>
             on<br>
            <br>
                                             >? the ballot.<br>
             Nobody wants multiple<br>
                                             tax measures before the<br>
            <br>
                                             >? voters at the<br>
             same time. The risk<br>
                                             of everything failing is<br>
            <br>
                                             >? too high.<br>
            <br>
                                             >? I see this as<br>
             a<br>
            <br>
                                             >? reminder that the<br>
             interests of the<br>
                                             institutional city and<br>
            <br>
                                             >? the staff are not<br>
             identical with<br>
                                             ours. We need to make<br>
             sure<br>
            <br>
                                             >? that the creation<br>
             of a task force<br>
                                             does not eliminate or<br>
             even<br>
            <br>
                                             >? reduce activist<br>
             efforts. There<br>
                                             needs to be some pressure<br>
            <br>
                                             >? from the outside.<br>
             This will help<br>
                                             keep a task force that<br>
             may<br>
            <br>
                                             >? well have some<br>
             pro-cable or<br>
                                             anti-tax representatives<br>
            <br>
                                             >? honest.<br>
            <br>
                                             >? Whether the<br>
            <br>
                                             >? item gets pulled<br>
             from consent or<br>
                                             not, I don't think it<br>
            <br>
                                             >? would hurt to<br>
             have some speakers<br>
                                             pushing for an aggressive<br>
            <br>
                                             >? timetable and a<br>
             high priority.<br>
            <br>
                                             >? On Mon, Nov 30,<br>
             2015 at<br>
            <br>
                                             >? 9:24 PM, Robert<br>
             Nickerson <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <br>
                                             >? wrote:<br>
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                                             >? ? ?<br>
             Hi<br>
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                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             Yeah so anyone else please<br>
                                             give it a neutral read,<br>
             is<br>
            <br>
                                             >? our<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             characterization misplaced, in<br>
                                             regards to this report<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ?? Don't<br>
             want<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ? to<br>
             mess up our graduation to<br>
                                             task force status,<br>
            <br>
                                             >? but...<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             Could be we have to queue up<br>
                                             in the public comment<br>
            <br>
                                             >? tomorrow and<br>
             ask<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ? to<br>
             be removed from consent.<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             I've emailed the city staff<br>
                                             about the document and<br>
            <br>
                                             >? its priorities<br>
             to<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ? see<br>
             if I can get more<br>
                                             understanding and clarity<br>
            <br>
                                             >? verbally.<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             I'll post results tomorrow.<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             Thanks<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             RAN<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
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                                             ><br>
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                                             ><br>
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                                             ><br>
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                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ? On<br>
             11/30/2015 8:22 PM, Douglas<br>
                                             A.<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? Walter wrote:<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? Hi. It seems clear to me<br>
                                             that we should<br>
            <br>
                                             >? not let the<br>
             current<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? Council accept the staff<br>
                                             recommendation. I would<br>
            <br>
                                             >? argue that in<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? 2018, when the Comcast<br>
                                             franchise agreement<br>
             expires,<br>
            <br>
                                             >? the<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? City+Schools will feel<br>
                                             desperate to assure that<br>
            <br>
                                             >? their pipes to<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? the Internet don't get cut<br>
                                             off (or busted back<br>
            <br>
                                             >? to modem<br>
             speeds),<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? and that will help<br>
                                             Comcast's negotiating<br>
            <br>
                                             >? position on<br>
             franchise<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? renewal. I haven't taken<br>
                                             the time to read the<br>
            <br>
                                             >? report, but<br>
             does<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? it not sound like this is<br>
                                             a very important deciding<br>
            <br>
                                             >? point?<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? I'd say NO to the timeline,<br>
                                             and no to the<br>
            <br>
                                             >? Task Force as<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? proposed.<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? On Nov 30, 2015, at 7:53<br>
                                             PM, Robert<br>
            <br>
                                             >? Nickerson<br>
             wrote:<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
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                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ?Hi<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? I can only agree on<br>
                                             that, now that I have<br>
             read<br>
            <br>
                                             >? this over.<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? The last interactions<br>
                                             I've had with the<br>
             City<br>
            <br>
                                             >? Staff have<br>
             been<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? negative<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? on having a June 2016<br>
                                             vote because of the<br>
            <br>
                                             >? competing tax<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? measure,<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? ?and they suggested<br>
                                             11/2016 as more<br>
            <br>
                                             >? appropriate.<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? ? ked them to look<br>
                                             into the reported<br>
            <br>
                                             >? requirement that<br>
             an<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? election where there<br>
                                             is a bond issue<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? needed to be a city<br>
                                             council election, and<br>
             have<br>
            <br>
                                             >? received no<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? definitive answer.<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? ?Looks like this task<br>
                                             force is a step back from<br>
            <br>
                                             >? even getting<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? municipal Fiber optic,<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? ?but more? focused on<br>
                                             studying broadband in<br>
            <br>
                                             >? Davis,? and<br>
             a<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? lot of extra effort.<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? Anyone have any ideas<br>
                                             on what to do with this ?<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? The staff report and<br>
                                             recommendation will be<br>
            <br>
                                             >? presented as a<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? consent item tomorrow<br>
                                             at the city council.<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? Thanks<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
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                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? P.S. How does this<br>
                                             relate to the Sports<br>
            <br>
                                             >? Complex?<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
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                                             ><br>
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                                             ><br>
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                                             ><br>
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                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? On 11/30/2015 11:34<br>
                                             AM, Shneor<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? ? Sherman wrote:<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ? ? ? ? ? The timeline will<br>
                                             not allow for a 2016<br>
            <br>
                                             >? referendum or any<br>
             popular vote in<br>
                                             2016. This proposal calls<br>
            <br>
                                             >? for a second<br>
             timeline to be<br>
                                             started in July, 2016 for<br>
             policy<br>
            <br>
                                             >? revisions, public<br>
             hearings, etc.<br>
                                             It's probably more<br>
            <br>
                                             >? realistic to look<br>
             at 2018, when<br>
                                             Comcast's franchise<br>
            <br>
                                             >? expires.<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? Shneor Sherman<br>
            <br>
                                             >?<br>
            <br>
             --------------------------------------------<br>
            <br>
                                             >? On Mon, 11/30/15,<br>
             Robert Nickerson<br>
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            <br>
                                             >? wrote:<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ?Subject:<br>
             [Davisgig] City of Davis<br>
                                             Staff Report on Broadband<br>
            <br>
                                             >? Released &<br>
             Article about El<br>
                                             Macero<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ?To:<br>
             "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <br>
                                             >? ?Date:<br>
             Monday, November 30, 2015,<br>
                                             11:08 AM<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
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                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ?Hi All<br>
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                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ?1) Thanks to all your<br>
                                             efforts, we have a council<br>
             item<br>
            <br>
                                             >? on<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ?the<br>
             consent<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ?calendar for Tues Dec 1<br>
                                             meeting to recommend<br>
             Davis<br>
            <br>
                                             >? adopt<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ?the Yolo<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ?Broadband Plan and make a<br>
                                             Task Force to help the<br>
             city<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ?decide what<br>
             is<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ?best to do for Davis for<br>
                                             fiber.<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ?A copy of the staff report is<br>
                                             here:<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
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              href="http://documents.cityofdavis.org/Media/Default/Documents/PDF/Ci"
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            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
 tyCouncil/CouncilMeetings/Agendas/20151201/05F-Broadband-Update.pdf<br>
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                                             ><br>
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                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ?Its a rather large document<br>
                                             because it has the Yolo<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ?Broadband<br>
             Plan<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ?attached to it. The details<br>
                                             about the Task force are<br>
             in<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ?the<br>
             first<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ?pages.? I don't think this<br>
                                             would have materialized<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ?at all at<br>
             the<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ?City level without everyone<br>
                                             being a force, and asking<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ?for and<br>
            <br>
                                             >? ? ?<br>
             ?delivering on meetings, and<br>
                                             Public Outreach.<br>
            <br>
                                             ><br>
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