[Davisgig] Davisgig Digest, Vol 53, Issue 3

[Eric Thompson]

This may help eric t

A Brief Introduction to Utility Poles CPUC

https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/uploadedFiles/CPUC_Public_Website/Content/About_Us/Organization/Divisions/Policy_and_Planning/PPD_Work/PPDUtilityPole.pdf





> On Jul 24, 2019, at 2:23 PM, Steve McMahon <steve at dcn.org> wrote:
> 
> The Broadband Advisory Task Force's feasibility study looked into overhead and advised against it. If I recall correctly, the finding was based on a mixture of considerations including the poor condition of the poles, the load they're already carrying, the higher maintenance costs for fiber on poles, and the likelihood that the incumbents would fight bitterly to keep us off the poles. (Even though they don't own them, the telecomm incumbents have some ability to keep others off by creating various hassles.)
> 
> I've often wondered, though, that if the City of Davis build a fiber loop, a plucky small operator might extend off it to cherry-pick neighborhoods with better poles.
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 1:49 PM Douglas A. Walter <dawalter at dcn.org> wrote:
>> Hi Dave. To summarize (which your digest will do, in a way), the network of overhead wires is more extensive than several people believe, but the costs to access them are likely quite steep. And that - plus resiliency - makes buried conduit more plausible. (Yes, conduit can flood or break in an earthquake, but poles actually have problem in both those scenarios, too. Plus I've experienced a Davis wind storm that broke a pole-based connection. So, buried fiber is more resilient, IMO.)
>> 
>> But I can't resist noting that the areas of Davis with no overhead wires would better be characterized as half-vast.
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 1:16 PM, Dave Hart <davehart at dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If I missed it in the responses, I apologize, but while there is a network of overhead wires in some of the older areas of town, there are vast areas of Davis with no overhead wires that would still require underground conduit.  So, there's that.
>>> 
>>> On 7/24/19 12:00 PM, davisgig-request at list.omsoft.com wrote:[snip]
>> 
>> Doug Walter (home account)
>> dawalter at dcn.org
>> "Wag more, bark less"
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
>> Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts:
>> 
>> http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start
>> 
>> Davisgig mailing list
>> Davisgig at list.omsoft.com
>> http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig
> _______________________________________________
> 
> Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts:
> 
> http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start
> 
> Davisgig mailing list
> Davisgig at list.omsoft.com
> http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://list.omsoft.com/pipermail/davisgig/attachments/20190724/c12b049b/attachment.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: PPDUtilityPole.pdf
Type: application/pdf
Size: 864451 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://list.omsoft.com/pipermail/davisgig/attachments/20190724/c12b049b/attachment.pdf>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://list.omsoft.com/pipermail/davisgig/attachments/20190724/c12b049b/attachment-0001.html>