[Davisgig] City of Davis Staff Report on Broadband Released & Article about El Macero

Shneor Sherman szsherm at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 1 11:44:34 PST 2015


The goals of the task force as stated must be modified to reflect the goals of DavisGig. Also, since our goals reflect a community need, the composition of the task force should be changed so that a majority are community members. The Yolo County broadband goals fall far short of what we seek. 

Shneor Sherman
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On Tue, 12/1/15, Steve McMahon <steve at dcn.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Davisgig] City of Davis Staff Report on Broadband Released & Article about El Macero
 To: "davisgig at list.omsoft.com" <davisgig at list.omsoft.com>
 Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2015, 8:44 AM
 
 The
 composition of the task force will also be very important,
 and we should keep an eye on the selection process.
 In particular, we'll want to
 make sure that nobody is appointed who has a direct or
 indirect financial connection to the cable industry or works
 in any position funded via cable franchise
 funds.
 On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 2:03
 AM, Russell Neches <russell at vort.org>
 wrote:
 I agree
 with this general assessment. I have alway been taken aback
 by
 
 how conservative the city staff is. It makes for a weird
 contrast with
 
 the city polity. They are, nevertheless, extremely
 professional.
 
 
 
 It's critical to have support of the Council, preferably
 unanimously.
 
 If there are any council members opposed, we need to figure
 out why,
 
 and what to do about it.
 
 
 
 
 
 Russell
 
 
 
 On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 08:09 +0000, Shneor Sherman via
 Davisgig wrote:
 
 > Once again, I have to say that if individual city
 council members are
 
 > not on board, nothing will happen.If anyone is
 acquainted with any
 
 > city council member, please have a conversation with
 them about this.
 
 > We have made a pretty good rough cost estimate of $30
 million. We
 
 > don't necessarily need a bond, as a utility tax
 will do just as well.
 
 > The franchise, as far as I understand, applies just to
 the city and
 
 > school district. Pulling the item off the consent
 calendar  is
 
 > definitely the best way to go. City staff might be pro
 comcast
 
 > (status quo), if they have any position at all.
 That's why educated
 
 > city council direction is vital.
 
 >
 
 > Shneor Sherman
 
 > --------------------------------------------
 
 > On Mon, 11/30/15, Steve McMahon <steve at dcn.org>
 wrote:
 
 >
 
 >  Subject: Re: [Davisgig] City of Davis Staff Report on
 Broadband
 
 > Released & Article about El Macero
 
 >  To: "Robert Nickerson @ Omsoft" <omrob at omsoft.com>
 
 >  Cc: "davisgig at list.omsoft.com"
 <davisgig at list.omsoft.com>
 
 >  Date: Monday, November 30, 2015, 9:56 PM
 
 >
 
 >  I think
 
 >  the possibility of a Spring 2016 measure was ruled
 out the
 
 >  moment that we knew we would have other financial
 matters on
 
 >  the ballot. Nobody wants multiple tax measures before
 the
 
 >  voters at the same time. The risk of everything
 failing is
 
 >  too high.
 
 >  I see this as a
 
 >  reminder that the interests of the institutional city
 and
 
 >  the staff are not identical with ours. We need to
 make sure
 
 >  that the creation of a task force does not eliminate
 or even
 
 >  reduce activist efforts. There needs to be some
 pressure
 
 >  from the outside. This will help keep a task force
 that may
 
 >  well have some pro-cable or anti-tax
 representatives
 
 >  honest.
 
 >  Whether the
 
 >  item gets pulled from consent or not, I don't
 think it
 
 >  would hurt to have some speakers pushing for an
 aggressive
 
 >  timetable and a high priority.
 
 >  On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at
 
 >  9:24 PM, Robert Nickerson <omrob at omsoft.com>
 
 >  wrote:
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >      Hi
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >      Yeah so anyone else please give it a neutral
 read, is
 
 >  our
 
 >      characterization misplaced, in regards to this
 report
 
 >  ?  Don't want
 
 >      to mess up our graduation to task force
 status,
 
 >  but...
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >      Could be we have to queue up in the public
 comment
 
 >  tomorrow and ask
 
 >      to be removed from consent.
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >      I've emailed the city staff about the
 document and
 
 >  its priorities to
 
 >      see if I can get more understanding and
 clarity
 
 >  verbally.
 
 >
 
 >      I'll post results tomorrow.
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >      Thanks
 
 >
 
 >      RAN
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >      On 11/30/2015 8:22 PM, Douglas A.
 
 >        Walter wrote:
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >        Hi. It seems clear to me that we should
 
 >  not let the current
 
 >          Council accept the staff recommendation.
 I would
 
 >  argue that in
 
 >          2018, when the Comcast franchise
 agreement expires,
 
 >  the
 
 >          City+Schools will feel desperate to
 assure that
 
 >  their pipes to
 
 >          the Internet don't get cut off (or
 busted back
 
 >  to modem speeds),
 
 >          and that will help Comcast's
 negotiating
 
 >  position on franchise
 
 >          renewal. I haven't taken the time to
 read the
 
 >  report, but does
 
 >          it not sound like this is a very
 important deciding
 
 >  point?
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >        I'd say NO to the timeline, and no to
 the
 
 >  Task Force as
 
 >          proposed.
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >          On Nov 30, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Robert
 
 >  Nickerson wrote:
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >             Hi
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >              I can only agree on that, now that
 I have read
 
 >  this over.
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >              The last interactions I've had
 with the City
 
 >  Staff have been
 
 >              negative
 
 >
 
 >              on having a June 2016 vote because
 of the
 
 >  competing tax
 
 >              measure,
 
 >
 
 >               and they suggested 11/2016 as
 more
 
 >  appropriate.
 
 >
 
 >                ked them to look into the
 reported
 
 >  requirement that an
 
 >              election where there is a bond
 issue
 
 >
 
 >              needed to be a city council
 election, and have
 
 >  received no
 
 >              definitive answer.
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >               Looks like this task force is a
 step back from
 
 >  even getting
 
 >              municipal Fiber optic,
 
 >
 
 >               but more  focused on studying
 broadband in
 
 >  Davis,  and a
 
 >              lot of extra effort.
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >              Anyone have any ideas on what to do
 with this ?
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >              The staff report and recommendation
 will be
 
 >  presented as a
 
 >              consent item tomorrow at the city
 council.
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >              Thanks
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >              P.S. How does this relate to the
 Sports
 
 >  Complex?
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >              On 11/30/2015 11:34 AM, Shneor
 
 >                Sherman wrote:
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >                The timeline will not allow for
 a 2016
 
 >  referendum or any popular vote in 2016. This proposal
 calls
 
 >  for a second timeline to be started in July, 2016 for
 policy
 
 >  revisions, public hearings, etc. It's probably
 more
 
 >  realistic to look at 2018, when Comcast's
 franchise
 
 >  expires.
 
 >
 
 >  Shneor Sherman
 
 >  --------------------------------------------
 
 >  On Mon, 11/30/15, Robert Nickerson <rob at omsoft.com>
 
 >  wrote:
 
 >
 
 >   Subject: [Davisgig] City of Davis Staff Report on
 Broadband
 
 >  Released & Article about El Macero
 
 >   To: "davisgig at list.omsoft.com"
 
 >  <davisgig at list.omsoft.com>
 
 >   Date: Monday, November 30, 2015, 11:08 AM
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >       Hi All
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >       1) Thanks to all your efforts, we have a
 council item
 
 >  on
 
 >   the consent
 
 >       calendar for Tues Dec 1 meeting to recommend
 Davis
 
 >  adopt
 
 >   the Yolo
 
 >       Broadband Plan and make a Task Force to help
 the city
 
 >   decide what is
 
 >       best to do for Davis for fiber.
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >       A copy of the staff report is here:
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >       http://documents.cityofdavis.org/Media/Default/Documents/PDF/Ci
 
 >
 tyCouncil/CouncilMeetings/Agendas/20151201/05F-Broadband-Update.pdf
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >       Its a rather large document because it has
 the Yolo
 
 >   Broadband Plan
 
 >       attached to it. The details about the Task
 force are in
 
 >   the first
 
 >       pages.  I don't think this would have
 materialized
 
 >   at all at the
 
 >       City level without everyone being a force,
 and asking
 
 >   for and
 
 >       delivering on meetings, and Public
 Outreach.
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >       2) An article about community businesses
 funding an
 
 >   Upgrade for El
 
 >       Macero -
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >   http://www.davisenterprise.com/business/real-estate-company-enhance
 
 > s-el-maceros-internet-connectivity/
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >       Does anyone have any insight on whether this
 is really
 
 >  a
 
 >   Fiber
 
 >       deployment or just paying a deposit to fund a
 build out
 
 >   by Comcast?
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >
 
 >       Thanks
 
 >
 
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 >
 
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