<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Interesting animation from a Comcast competitor</div><div class="gmail_default" style><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSGekVBgJAE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSGekVBgJAE</a><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Tim Starback <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tim@active4.me" target="_blank">tim@active4.me</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I assumed that was a Spinal Tap reference ;-)<div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o</a></div><div><br></div><div>Tim</div><div><br></div><div><div><div class="h5"><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 14, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Shneor Sherman via Davisgig <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>Agreed! But what does #5 mean ("Ours goes to 11")?<br>Shneor Sherman<br>--------------------------------------------<br>On Thu, 5/14/15, Robert Nickerson via Davisgig <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>> wrote:<br><br> Subject: Re: [Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps Residential FTTH offer - Thoughts?<br> To: "<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br> Date: Thursday, May 14, 2015, 11:02 AM<br><br><br>     Hi All <br><br><br><br>     Even if this Comcast upgrade happens, it is still<br> imperative we do<br>     this muni fiber project for Davis<br><br><br><br>     1) Our town owns the muni network, its private to our<br> town, we will<br>     be able to send data between locations in town for<br> little costs, and<br>     without having to buy cable tv package :)<br><br>     2) This is just the monopoly coming in with more<br> monopoly tactics,<br>     prices and service. Havign an alternative is better <br> for everyone<br>     for all the competition <br><br>     reasons we are touting for our own network. Comcast<br> would lower its<br>     price, for fear of losing biz to the muni network.<br><br>     3) Our project will be able to provide a community<br> revenue stream,<br>     Comcast wont. <br><br>     4) We can't have big pipe private interconnects to<br> UCD, DJUSD, or<br>     City for residences/business with comcast<br><br>     5) Ours goes up to 11. <br><br>     6) No one needs to pay $300 per month for Internet<br> access.<br><br><br><br><br><br>     Onward! <br><br><br><br>     Thanks<br><br>     RAN<br><br><br><br>     On 5/13/2015 11:20 PM,<br> Shneor Sherman<br>       via Davisgig wrote:<br><br><br><br>       Yes, and how much water will a sports park need?<br> And if it's a sports part not usable by every Davis<br> resident, this is the wrong way to go about paying for it.<br> Users should pay all the costs if it's exclusive to<br> them.<br><br> Shneor Sherman<br><br> --------------------------------------------<br> On Wed, 5/13/15, Douglas A. Walter via Davisgig <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br> wrote:<br><br>  Subject: Re: [Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps Residential FTTH<br> offer - Thoughts?<br>  To: <a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a><br>  Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 11:08 PM<br><br>  I agree with<br>  what Steve and then Shneor wrote. I was mulling the<br>  "Sports park" proposal, and it occurred to me<br> that<br>  more people would benefit from a gigabit fiber network than<br>  from a number of playing fields. Economically and<br>  educationally, there's much more for kids and local<br>  businesses (even if soccer and baseball teams eat a lot of<br>  oranges and chips, which my employer sells).<br>  On May 13, 2015, at<br>  11:03 PM, Shneor Sherman via Davisgig wrote:<br>  Seems to me the more serious issue is the<br>  mayor's proposed utility users tax on the 2016 ballot.<br> I<br>  doubt that both that and a parcel tax couls pass. Maybe<br> this<br>  item could be rolled into the utility tax proposal. That<br>  could also increase the payback time to 30-40 years.<br><br>  Shneor Sherman<br>  --------------------------------------------<br>  On Wed, 5/13/15, Steve McMahon via Davisgig<br>  <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br>  wrote:<br><br>   Subject: Re:<br>  [Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps Residential FTTH offer -<br>  Thoughts?<br>   To: "<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>"<br>  <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br>   Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 5:01 PM<br><br>   I'll<br><br>  believe it when Comcast starts work on getting the<br>  permits.<br>   Until then, it's FUD to scare<br>  off competition.<br>   As for pricing, I'd<br>  guess $300<br>   if there's no competition<br>  from a municipal offering.<br>   $75-$100 if<br>  there is.<br>   And, of course, with<br>  Comcast's<br>   unrivaled (not in a good way)<br>  service.<br>   On Wed, May 13, 2015 at<br>   4:20 PM, Shneor Sherman via Davisgig <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br>   wrote:<br>   The<br><br>  quetion is, what would it cost for gigabit service? Do<br>  you<br>   have to subscribe to Comcast cable for<br>  this? Would there<br>   still be metering and<br>  different speeds for different<br>   providers?<br>  Not to mention lousy customer service. So,<br><br>  maybe.<br><br>   Shneor Sherman<br><br><br>  --------------------------------------------<br><br>   On Wed, 5/13/15, Robert<br>  Nickerson via Davisgig <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br>   wrote:<br><br><br><br>    Subject: [Davisgig] Comcast<br>  2 Gbps Residential FTTH offer<br>   -<br>  Thoughts?<br><br>    To: "<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>"<br>   <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" target="_blank">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br><br>    Date: Wednesday, May 13,<br>  2015, 4:03 PM<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>      Hi<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>      Please take a look<br>  at<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>    <a href="http://corporate.comcast.com/news-information/news-feed/2-gig-internet-california" target="_blank">http://corporate.comcast.com/news-information/news-feed/2-gig-internet-california</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>      Looks like Davis<br>  would be part of the Sacramento<br>   Metro<br><br>    Area here.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>      Sorry Arbuckle!<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>      Does anyone think<br>  that a municipal or community<br>   fiber<br><br>    owned network<br><br><br><br><br><br>     <br>   would be appealing after this is available?<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>     <br>   --<br><br><br><br>       Rob Nickerson<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>       CEO<br><br><br><br>      <br>   Om Networks<br><br><br><br>       UCD Class of 96<br><br><br><br>       C: <a href="tel:530-848-3865" value="+15308483865" target="_blank">530-848-3865</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>       If we have helped you in a positive<br>  way, please<br>   give<br><br>    us a good<br><br><br><br>      <br>   recommendation at <a 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