<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I assumed that was a Spinal Tap reference ;-)<div class=""><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o" class="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tim</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 14, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Shneor Sherman via Davisgig <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" class="">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">Agreed! But what does #5 mean ("Ours goes to 11")?<br class="">Shneor Sherman<br class="">--------------------------------------------<br class="">On Thu, 5/14/15, Robert Nickerson via Davisgig <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" class="">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""> Subject: Re: [Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps Residential FTTH offer - Thoughts?<br class=""> To: "<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" class="">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" class="">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br class=""> Date: Thursday, May 14, 2015, 11:02 AM<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Hi All <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Even if this Comcast upgrade happens, it is still<br class=""> imperative we do<br class=""> this muni fiber project for Davis<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> 1) Our town owns the muni network, its private to our<br class=""> town, we will<br class=""> be able to send data between locations in town for<br class=""> little costs, and<br class=""> without having to buy cable tv package :)<br class=""><br class=""> 2) This is just the monopoly coming in with more<br class=""> monopoly tactics,<br class=""> prices and service. Havign an alternative is better <br class=""> for everyone<br class=""> for all the competition <br class=""><br class=""> reasons we are touting for our own network. Comcast<br class=""> would lower its<br class=""> price, for fear of losing biz to the muni network.<br class=""><br class=""> 3) Our project will be able to provide a community<br class=""> revenue stream,<br class=""> Comcast wont. <br class=""><br class=""> 4) We can't have big pipe private interconnects to<br class=""> UCD, DJUSD, or<br class=""> City for residences/business with comcast<br class=""><br class=""> 5) Ours goes up to 11. <br class=""><br class=""> 6) No one needs to pay $300 per month for Internet<br class=""> access.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Onward! <br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Thanks<br class=""><br class=""> RAN<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> On 5/13/2015 11:20 PM,<br class=""> Shneor Sherman<br class=""> via Davisgig wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Yes, and how much water will a sports park need?<br class=""> And if it's a sports part not usable by every Davis<br class=""> resident, this is the wrong way to go about paying for it.<br class=""> Users should pay all the costs if it's exclusive to<br class=""> them.<br class=""><br class=""> Shneor Sherman<br class=""><br class=""> --------------------------------------------<br class=""> On Wed, 5/13/15, Douglas A. Walter via Davisgig <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" class="">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br class=""> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""> Subject: Re: [Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps Residential FTTH<br class=""> offer - Thoughts?<br class=""> To: <a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" class="">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a><br class=""> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 11:08 PM<br class=""><br class=""> I agree with<br class=""> what Steve and then Shneor wrote. I was mulling the<br class=""> "Sports park" proposal, and it occurred to me<br class=""> that<br class=""> more people would benefit from a gigabit fiber network than<br class=""> from a number of playing fields. Economically and<br class=""> educationally, there's much more for kids and local<br class=""> businesses (even if soccer and baseball teams eat a lot of<br class=""> oranges and chips, which my employer sells).<br class=""> On May 13, 2015, at<br class=""> 11:03 PM, Shneor Sherman via Davisgig wrote:<br class=""> Seems to me the more serious issue is the<br class=""> mayor's proposed utility users tax on the 2016 ballot.<br class=""> I<br class=""> doubt that both that and a parcel tax couls pass. Maybe<br class=""> this<br class=""> item could be rolled into the utility tax proposal. That<br class=""> could also increase the payback time to 30-40 years.<br class=""><br class=""> Shneor Sherman<br class=""> --------------------------------------------<br class=""> On Wed, 5/13/15, Steve McMahon via Davisgig<br class=""> <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" class="">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br class=""> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""> Subject: Re:<br class=""> [Davisgig] Comcast 2 Gbps Residential FTTH offer -<br class=""> Thoughts?<br class=""> To: "<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" class="">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>"<br class=""> <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" class="">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br class=""> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 5:01 PM<br class=""><br class=""> I'll<br class=""><br class=""> believe it when Comcast starts work on getting the<br class=""> permits.<br class=""> Until then, it's FUD to scare<br class=""> off competition.<br class=""> As for pricing, I'd<br class=""> guess $300<br class=""> if there's no competition<br class=""> from a municipal offering.<br class=""> $75-$100 if<br class=""> there is.<br class=""> And, of course, with<br class=""> Comcast's<br class=""> unrivaled (not in a good way)<br class=""> service.<br class=""> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at<br class=""> 4:20 PM, Shneor Sherman via Davisgig <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" class="">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br class=""> wrote:<br class=""> The<br class=""><br class=""> quetion is, what would it cost for gigabit service? Do<br class=""> you<br class=""> have to subscribe to Comcast cable for<br class=""> this? Would there<br class=""> still be metering and<br class=""> different speeds for different<br class=""> providers?<br class=""> Not to mention lousy customer service. So,<br class=""><br class=""> maybe.<br class=""><br class=""> Shneor Sherman<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> --------------------------------------------<br class=""><br class=""> On Wed, 5/13/15, Robert<br class=""> Nickerson via Davisgig <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" class="">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br class=""> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Subject: [Davisgig] Comcast<br class=""> 2 Gbps Residential FTTH offer<br class=""> -<br class=""> Thoughts?<br class=""><br class=""> To: "<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" class="">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>"<br class=""> <<a href="mailto:davisgig@list.omsoft.com" class="">davisgig@list.omsoft.com</a>><br class=""><br class=""> Date: Wednesday, May 13,<br class=""> 2015, 4:03 PM<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Hi<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Please take a look<br class=""> at<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> <a href="http://corporate.comcast.com/news-information/news-feed/2-gig-internet-california" class="">http://corporate.comcast.com/news-information/news-feed/2-gig-internet-california</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Looks like Davis<br class=""> would be part of the Sacramento<br class=""> Metro<br class=""><br class=""> Area here.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Sorry Arbuckle!<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Does anyone think<br class=""> that a municipal or community<br class=""> fiber<br class=""><br class=""> owned 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