From rl at 1st-mile.org Tue May 14 08:57:36 2019 From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg) Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 09:57:36 -0600 Subject: [Davisgig] Fwd: [NDIA Listserv] CA Public Utilities Commission En Banc May 20 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <25563297b499c429c012693155254551@1st-mile.org> This looks like a worthwhile meeting to attend. R. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [NDIA Listserv] CA Public Utilities Commission En Banc May 20 Date: 2019-05-14 09:04 From: Angela Siefer To: NDIA Affiliates and Friends Listserv Dear NDIA Affiliates and Friends,On May 20, the California Public Utilities Commission is holding an ?en banc? (which means all the commissioners will be present) on the future of California?s Communication Grid. I am on the first panel ?Affordability and Access?. Panelists have been asked to focus the conversation on the future. This event will be webcast [1]. California?s Public Utilities Commission is the only public utilities commission in the U.S. that makes a real attempt at regulating broadband. ~Angela CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION EN BANC ?THE FUTURE OF CALIFORNIA'S COMMUNICATIONS GRID? MAY 20, 2019, 10:00 A.M. TO 5 P.M. SACRAMENTO CITY HALL, COUNCIL CHAMBERS 915 I ST, SACRAMENTO WEBCAST: HTTP://ADMINMONITOR.COM/CA/CPUC/EN_BANC/20190520/ MORE INFORMATION: HTTP://WWW.CPUC.CA.GOV/CDENBANC/ CALIFORNIA?S COMMUNICATIONS GRID Recent wildfires have underscored the critical role the communications grid plays in warning the public, alerting and allowing first responders to communicate with each other, and connecting wildfire victims to emergency services and loved ones. The communications grid, like power and water, is critical infrastructure, yet the state still relies on a patchwork of statutes and rules from the previous decade often hinder the state?s ability to ensure access to safe, reliable, and affordable services. The communications market is changing rapidly. What began as a statewide, copper-based telephone network of franchise monopoly local exchange companies has evolved into a diverse, multi-provider and multi-technology broadband network that relies on copper, fiber optic, wireless, and satellite infrastructure. The California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) Communications Division is holding a workshop to hear from a wide range of stakeholders to better understand the state?s communications needs and challenges in the coming years. This workshop is the first in a series of stakeholder engagement opportunities to address how the current processes and regulations will need to evolve to stay relevant to Californians. _NOTE__: __Although a quorum of Commissioners, their advisors or other decision-makers may be present, no action will be taken at this event. __This En Banc is independent of any CPUC proceeding, and panelists are forbidden from making ex parte comments related to open proceedings during their presentations or discussions._ MORNING SESSION INTRODUCTORY REMARKS FROM COMMISSIONERS (10:00-10:30) AFFORDABILITY AND ACCESS (10:35-11:30) _The_ _Affordability and Access panel will focus on the communications needs of low income and disabled populations in the coming years. Closing the broadband adoption gap continues to be a challenge. Questions addressed include: What issues may arise as network speeds increase and devices proliferate, and how will communications services continue to be affordable?___ MODERATOR: Catherine Sandoval, Associate Professor Santa Clara University School of Law PANELISTS: Sunne Wright McPeak, President and CEO, California Emerging Technology Fund Angela Siefer, Executive Director, National Digital Inclusion Alliance Ana Maria Johnson, Program Manager, Public Advocate?s Office EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE (11:30-12:30) _The Emergency Preparedness and Response panel will focus on the demand drivers and challenges for emergency communications within the state in the coming years. The CPUC has open proceedings on utility Public Safety Power Shut-Off (PSPS) and protections for wildfire victims ? both of which affect communications services and providers. In addition, the Legislature is considering several bills dealing with 9-1-1 surcharges, wireless alerts, traffic throttling, and Voice over Internet Protocol. Given that backdrop, how will the needs of first responders and victims of natural disasters likely evolve over time?_ MODERATOR: Alice Stebbins, Executive Director, CPUC PANELISTS: Budge Currier, 9-1-1 Branch Manager, Public Safety Communications, CalOES Kevin Guerrero, Staff Chief, Fire Protection Operations, CALFIRE Scott Howland, CIO and Chief, Information Management Division, California Highway Patrol BREAK FOR LUNCH: 12:30-1:30 AFTERNOON SESSION LIBRARIES AND EDUCATION (1:30-2:25) _High-speed communications networks, like the California Research and Education Network (CalREN), enable libraries and schools to go beyond book-based learning by offering multimedia resources and training for people of all ages. Examples include software coding, 3D printing, and device lending. Currently, 70%of the State?s 1,132 main and branch libraries are now connected or will connect to CalREN. The latest data from K12 High Speed Network show that 80% of California?s K-12 schools are connected to CalREN, with more than half connected to 1 Gigabits per second or higher. The Libraries and Education panel will focus on the demands libraries and schools will put on the communications grid as more and more activity occurs on the Internet. What challenges do libraries and schools face in the coming years with regards to the communications grid?___ MODERATOR: Blair Levin, Policy Advisor, New Street Research and Non-Resident Fellow, Brookings Institution Metropolitan Policy Project PANELISTS: Anne Neville-Bonilla, Director, California Research Bureau Jerry Winkler, Director, Educational Data Management Division, California Department of Education Louis Fox, President & CEO, CENIC Luis Wong, Chief Executive Officer, California K-12 High Speed Network ECONOMIC GROWTH AND PROSPERITY?(2:30-3:25) _Businesses large and small ? from the family farm to the multi-national corporation ? require internet connectivity to function, but the lack of broadband options in agricultural and rural areas prevents many businesses outside California?s major cities from evolving to embrace 21st century business models. What are the challenges to economic growth and prosperity created by the lack of access to the communications grid?_ MODERATOR: Lloyd Levine, President, Filament Strategies PANELISTS: Eric Brown, President, California Telehealth Network and OCHIN Broadband Network Services Terrance Rodgers, Economic Development Officer, Rural County Representatives of California Robert Tse, Office of the Assistant Administrator, Telecommunications Program, USDA David Witkowski, Executive Director, Civic Technology Initiatives, Joint Venture Silicon Valley CYBERSECURITY AND COMMUNICATIONS?(3:30-4:25) _Banking transactions, online purchases, reservations, and e-mail are all encrypted. According to Network World, modern public-key encryption is sufficient for enterprise requirements, but experts believe the status quo will soon be threatened by quantum computing. This is just one example of how cybersecurity and encryption will continue to be critical areas in the coming years, but how will they likely to evolve? The Cybersecurity and Communications?panel will discuss the challenges in the coming 5-10 years.___ MODERATOR: Danjel Bout, Program Manager, Utility Cyber Security Branch, CPUC PANELISTS: Marc A. Glenn, Senior Cybersecurity Intelligence Analyst, Cal-CSIC Vitaliy Panych, Deputy Chief Information Security Officer, CA Dep't of Technology Kellyn Wagner Ramsdell, Intelligence Analyst, Cyber Security Team, Northern California Regional Intelligence Center CLOSING COMMENTS (4:30-4:45) Angela Siefer Executive Director National Digital Inclusion Alliance angela at digitalinclusion.org 614-537-3057 Links: ------ [1] http://adminmonitor.com/ca/cpuc/en_banc/20190520/ --------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director 1st-Mile Institute 505-603-5200 Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504, rl at 1st-mile.org www.1st-mile.org --------------------------------------------------------------- From rob at omsoft.com Fri May 24 10:52:48 2019 From: rob at omsoft.com (Robert Nickerson) Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 10:52:48 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Doug_Dawson_Tweeted=3A_The_Impact_of_?= =?utf-8?q?Satellite=C2=A0Broadband?= In-Reply-To: <34.22.44462.0DE18EC5@twitter.com> References: <34.22.44462.0DE18EC5@twitter.com> Message-ID: <2ce1da7e-a541-4989-fbdb-d7e2eb7835b1@omsoft.com> Hey All Here's Doug's take on the SpaceX satellites. Interesting Read. https://potsandpansbyccg.com/2019/05/24/the-impact-of-satellite-broadband/ More email to this list today. Thanks RAN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rob at omsoft.com Fri May 24 12:42:57 2019 From: rob at omsoft.com (Robert Nickerson) Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 12:42:57 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] Broadband Advisory Task Force has ENDED Message-ID: <31ed2f63-b631-2077-147c-8dd7e6034091@omsoft.com> Hi Davisites Last Wed was the final Broadband Advisory Task Force meeting. The BATF unanimously approved its final product, a 3 page letter, which unequivocally states a Fiber Based Community Broadband network is feasible, should be further analyzed by technical and financial professionals in coordination with city engineering staff, and urges timely action. Although there is some minor word smithing that will change a couple of small details, the Final was approved from a Draft copy which may be found here. http://documents.cityofdavis.org/Media/Default/Documents/PDF/CityCouncil/Broadband-Advisory-Task-Force/Agendas/20190522/06A-BATF-Recomendation-to-Council-Draft.pdf This process went on 3 full years and was entering its 4^th . It produced an excellent Feasibility Study Report, evaluated information, talked to vendors, and generated and reviewed the results of a phone survey and online poll in its final analysis. Personally, I?m truly thankful these community leaders took their time to evaluate and follow this process of evaluating feasibility to this conclusion, and now it is time for DavisGIG to be more active again with both the public and the Council to help move it onward. This report will be presented by the Task Force Chair, hello Chris, at the 6/4 CC meeting, so keep your eye on the Agenda. I?m thinking that they will evaluate, at that time or soon after, if they want to reconstitute some sort of group to carry out carrying out technical and financial analysis details the BATF memo recommends, or end the effort and bring in Big Fiber Provider Grande/Wave/RCN, aka Astound, owned by private equity firm TPG Capital. This will setup another monopoly control situation over physical Internet infrastructure, like Comcast?s control of Coax, and ATT?s control of Copper. So we need to put some effort into encouraging Council to do the right thing here, which is continue the effort for a phased build approach to a city-owned, community-operated open access fiber ring or more. In support of that, we have generated a ?talking points? type document which refers to benefits identified by the Feasibility Study and addresses concerns citizens raised in the DavisGIG broadband poll. Please comment if you think anything needs tweaking, it may be found here. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G8WTYwwkxZFFKSoOZn0Bjpz0Pw2VRQD_WR8CJGEVjcY/edit?usp=sharing We hope you can use this to educate your neighbors and colleagues as to why this will make everyone's quality of life better. We need an Op Ed ASAP for the papers, and to finish out a light business plan for the first phase; the build out of backbone ring and sub rings, aka the ?COFOR? thanks DW! This we plan to submit to City Staff for inclusion in documents sent to CC on this issue, as DavisGIG?s recommendation, so we have a week on that. I?ll put links to those in subsequent emails. I?m hoping some of you all can collaborate on this through Google Docs. Should we also get a statement together asking Council to follow the advice of the BATF memo that we can ask people to endorse or sign on to that can be presented to CC during public comment or in support of the item? I?ll send a notice out to our announce list about this, as well as social media, asking people to submit public comment or just endorse our statement. It would also be spectacular to have lots of people come to this CC meeting to give comment at the start of the 6/4 CC Session. Any other ideas for how to keep this going please chime in. Thanks ALL RAN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rob at omsoft.com Fri May 24 15:58:57 2019 From: rob at omsoft.com (Robert Nickerson) Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:58:57 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] Start of Op Ed for Community Fiber Optic Message-ID: <52293b2c-801a-9a5d-0c2b-49c26597446e@omsoft.com> Hi All Here is the beginning of an op ed.? I'll be working on it more over the coming days. Have at... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q1uoe2eqB7sUSqyRPNKpGfw1olH_A4p3oxUDSxPTzEY/edit?usp=sharing Thanks RAN From rob at omsoft.com Wed May 29 10:47:43 2019 From: rob at omsoft.com (Robert Nickerson) Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 10:47:43 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] City Council 6/4 + Light Business Plan + Op Ed Message-ID: Hi All 1) Please stop by City Council on 6/4 and make a statement in support of community-owned fiber optic. We will have a letter template completed to send in email as well. Anyone who can help draft on that is appreciated. 2) Here is a link to the beginning of the plan text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y4BHUmxRxfuP_75YXfDBl1s2QCqRJIft0epQ4Aaf7jo/edit?usp=sharing Here is a link to the plan spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YKvSajqzLGDSlwg5JJxUFiCJu38qlBc8iPoS2pCEJtY/edit?usp=sharing This is the projected costs for building the core ring and subrings, which will also happen to serve city buildings, schools, and many MDUs and businesses. We need another sheet that covers cost of capital and projected take rates. 3) Here is a link to the Op Ed, please feel free to look it over offer any editing, we should get this out to the Enterprise tomorrow. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YKvSajqzLGDSlwg5JJxUFiCJu38qlBc8iPoS2pCEJtY/edit?usp=sharing I don't think this will be ready in time to be included in the packet, but hopefully will be sent to CC? directly. Thanks All RAN From rob at omsoft.com Wed May 29 14:00:02 2019 From: rob at omsoft.com (Robert Nickerson) Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 14:00:02 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] CORRECTION: Op Ed Link Message-ID: Hi Sorry for the incorrect link, here's the location for the OpEd: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q1uoe2eqB7sUSqyRPNKpGfw1olH_A4p3oxUDSxPTzEY/edit?usp=sharing Should have a completed draft done by tonight sometime. Thanks RAN -- Robert Nickerson UCD Class of 1996 CEO, Om Networks cell: 5308483865 www.omsoft.com From rob at omsoft.com Thu May 30 20:27:32 2019 From: rob at omsoft.com (rob) Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 20:27:32 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] PLEASE READ Documents to City Council Message-ID: Hi All The Op Ed is done and was sent off this afternoon to the DE, thanks to some excellent edits, and input from members of the list. I sent our ring design principles doc to the folks at the Davisite, lets hope they publish it at some point. Is it gauche to send the same op ed to multiple outlets? like the Vanguard as well as the DE? I'll plan on sending what I have done of the business plan/spreadsheet by the latest early Saturday AM to the City Council, senior staff, etc. Welcome any help with either of those documents. There should be a cover letter that goes with 2 PDFs of the biz plan/spreadsheet. I have enough material to send something repackaged, but I'd like to give a chance for some of the members of the list, who came in those meetings in 2015, and later, and have helped along since, to share a sentence or paragraph or two as to why you think this is important. Alternately, just send your own letter on the topic or make a public comment on the item at the 6/4 meeting. Cover Letter: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pACbgosuskx6P4ScqG1wMfZPH_1PIeZHwi6zYnkLg68/edit?usp=sharing Tomorrow I'll send out a blurb to go out our announce list, and to Next Door etc, so please share. Thanks RAN From rob at omsoft.com Thu May 30 22:10:13 2019 From: rob at omsoft.com (rob) Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 22:10:13 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] PLEASE READ Staff Report Message-ID: <13480f45cb3be2a291556713a706c27c@omsoft.com> HI All The agenda is out and the staff report item on community broadband is out. I don't think we are going to have any luck as Diane Parro is saying this should be shut down. None of the points in this memo were covered at any BATF meetings, the product of which was the attached letter. Thanks RAN -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 08-Broadband-Task-Force-Final-Report.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 2518649 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rob at omsoft.com Fri May 31 18:36:14 2019 From: rob at omsoft.com (Robert Nickerson) Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 18:36:14 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] Fwd: Task Force Positive - City Staff Negative - Next Step for Community Broadband Needs your Help In-Reply-To: <454042a8-98b8-1bde-00ec-ce9ab28d73c1@dcn.org> References: <454042a8-98b8-1bde-00ec-ce9ab28d73c1@dcn.org> Message-ID: <4b49fd95-1caa-abe2-cb68-6a2014f42ef4@omsoft.com> Hi All This went out to the announce list just now.? Please share far and wide. I'll make a modification that is suitable for next door and fb and post that next Thanks RAN -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Task Force Positive - City Staff Negative - Next Step for Community Broadband Needs your Help Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 18:32:16 -0700 From: help at dcn.org Organization: DavisGIG Committee of DCN To: davisgig-announce at list.davisgig.org Hi Davisites We need your input at the next City Council meeting on Tuesday 6/4/19. Last Wed was the final Broadband Advisory Task Force meeting. After fulfilling its charge The BATF unanimously approved its final product, a 3 page letter, which unequivocally states a Fiber Based Community Broadband network is feasible, should be further analyzed and pursued by technical and financial professionals in coordination with city engineering staff, and urges timely action. This process went on 3 full years and was entering its 4^th . It produced an excellent Feasibility Study Report, evaluated information, talked to vendors, and generated and reviewed the results of a phone survey and online poll in its final analysis. Personally, I?m truly thankful these community leaders took their time to evaluate and follow this process of evaluating feasibility to this conclusion, and now it is time for DavisGIG to be more active again with the Council to help move it onward. In stark contrast, the staff report that the BATF letter is attached to is very negative on cost alone due to the feasibility report we wrote about last year.. Not a surprise for a report that states an $800 per house marketing cost just to get the customer to join the community fiber network. The staff report draws on the very conservative Feasibility study report which describes the costs of building the most expensive type of fiber network, all at once, and with a business model of a traditional ISP that competes against the Very Large ISPs. It also relies on the phone survey about broadband we advised would be lackluster due to the fact that no one does phone surveys any more.? It really parrots points put forward by the large incumbent carriers, to discourage municipal broadband, and does not refer to any of the many economic development, social justice, and pro competitive, smart city benefits a municipal fiber investment would make. The staff report does not examine any alternative designs, financing mechanisms or future needs which make local control of Internet infrastructure desirable. It completely ignores further analysis put forward by a subcommittee of the BATF, as reported in a memo approved unanimously at the 3/27 meeting that shows that the electronics are substantially cheaper, and a phased installation approach allowing for project expansion based on revenues from the initial phase. That memo advocates for the construction of the core backbone ring and sub rings, that go throughout the entire city, has substantial numbers of homes businesses and apartments passed, and serves as an anchor ring that will generate immediate revenue and allow the build out remaining neighborhoods. It makes no mention of the network as a valuable asset that the City would realize revenue from from citizens, business, and other companies through leases. It makes no mention of working with community partners. It ignores the fact that city and school buildings would have permanent usable Internet connections for a one time cost. City Community and Business Engagement staff, wants to end the effort and bring in big fiber provider Grande/Wave/RCN, owned by private equity firm TPG Capital to just carry on with the status quo, cherry picking neighborhoods and giving away valuable city conduit for little return. This will setup another monopoly control situation over physical Internet infrastructure and fiber will be the last one installed, like Comcast?s control of Coax, and ATT?s control of Copper. So we need to put some effort into encouraging Council to do the right thing here, which is follow the BATF letter and not the staff report. Continue the effort of technical and financial analysis for a phased build approach to a city-owned, community-operated open access fiber ring or more. This will be presented at the City Council on 6/4/19. Please provide public comment via email or in person at the beginning of the meeting. The BATF item is at the end of the evening, and I?d hate for you all to be stuck at the meeting very late. In support of that, we have generated a ?talking points? type document which refers to benefits identified by the Feasibility Study and addresses concerns citizens identified in the DavisGIG broadband poll. We hope you can use this to educate your neighbors and colleagues as to why this will make everyone's quality of life better. As well, attached is a sample letter you can use to send indicating your support for community owned broadband and DavisGIG. Send it to citycouncilmembers at cityofdavis.org Thank you for your support Davis GIG Committee of DCN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Ring Design Principles.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 114224 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Template_CC060419.doc Type: application/octet-stream Size: 12800 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rob at omsoft.com Fri May 31 19:05:47 2019 From: rob at omsoft.com (Robert Nickerson) Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 19:05:47 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] PLEASE SHARE - Version for Next Door Message-ID: <298e18ee-e0e8-eafc-aa46-eba8fa999232@omsoft.com> Subject - DAVISGIG UPDATE - Task Force Positive - City Staff Negative - Next Step for Community Broadband Needs your Help You can tell people to email help at dcn.org if they have questions. Hi Davisites Last Wed was the final Broadband Advisory Task Force meeting. The BATF unanimously approved its final product, a 3 page letter, which unequivocally states a Fiber Based Community Broadband network is feasible, should be further analyzed and pursued by technical and financial professionals in coordination with city engineering staff, and urges timely action. This process went on 3 full years and was entering its 4^th . It produced an excellent Feasibility Study Report, evaluated information, talked to vendors, and generated and reviewed the results of a phone survey and online poll in its final analysis. Personally, I?m truly thankful these community leaders took their time to evaluate and follow this process of evaluating feasibility to this conclusion, and now it is time for DavisGIG to be more active again with the Council to help move it onward. In stark contrast, the staff report that the BATF letter is attached to is very negative on cost alone. Not a surprise for a report that states an $800 per house marketing cost just to get the customer to join the community fiber network. This is because it draws on the very conservative Feasibility study report which describes the costs of building the most expensive type of fiber network, all at once, and with a business model of a traditional ISP that competes against the Very Large ISPs. It really parrots points put forward by the large incumbent carriers, to discourage municipal broadband, and does not refer to any of the many economic development, social justice, and pro competitive, smart city benefits a municipal fiber investment would make. The staff report does not examine any alternative designs, financing mechanisms or future needs which make local control of Internet infrastructure desirable. It completely ignores further analysis put forward by a subcommittee of the BATF, as reported in a memo approved unanimously at the 3/27 meeting that shows that the electronics are substantially cheaper, and a phased installation approach allowing for project expansion based on revenues from the initial phase. That memo advocates for the construction of the core backbone ring and sub rings, that go throughout the entire city, has substantial numbers of homes businesses and apartments passed, and serves as an anchor ring that will generate immediate revenue and allow the build out remaining neighborhoods. It makes no mention of the network as a valuable asset that the City would realize revenue from from citizens, business, and other companies through leases. It makes no mention of working with community partners. It ignores the fact that city and school buildings would have permanent usable Internet connections for a one time cost. City Community and Business Engagement staff, wants to end the effort and bring in big fiber provider Grande/Wave/RCN, owned by private equity firm TPG Capital to just carry on with the status quo, cherry picking neighborhoods and giving away valuable city conduit for little return. This will setup another monopoly control situation over physical Internet infrastructure and fiber will be the last one installed, like Comcast?s control of Coax, and ATT?s control of Copper. So we need to put some effort into encouraging Council to do the right thing here, which is follow the BATF letter and not the staff report. Continue the effort of technical and financial analysis for a phased build approach to a city-owned, community-operated open access fiber ring or more. This will be presented at the City Council on 6/4/19. Please provide public comment via email or in person at the beginning of the meeting. The BATF item is at the end of the evening, and I?d hate for you all to be stuck at the meeting very late. In support of that, we have generated a ?talking points? type document which refers to benefits identified by the Feasibility Study and addresses concerns citizens identified in the DavisGIG broadband poll. We hope you can use this to educate your neighbors and colleagues as to why this will make everyone's quality of life better. As well, attached is a sample letter you can use to send indicating your support for community owned broadband and DavisGIG. Talking Points: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/Ring_Design_Principles.pdf Template: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/Template_CC060419.doc Thank you for your support Davis GIG Committee of DCN -- Robert Nickerson UCD Class of 1996 CEO, Om Networks cell: 5308483865 www.omsoft.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: