From rl at 1st-mile.org Mon Mar 2 09:31:13 2015 From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 10:31:13 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] Enterprise Article on Yolo County Broadband Message-ID: http://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/supervisors-focus-on-countys-broadband-issues/ --------------------------------------------------------- Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director 1st-Mile Institute www.1st-mile.org P. O. Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504 505-603-5200 rl at 1st-mile.org --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From flcli at ucdavis.edu Mon Mar 2 19:26:01 2015 From: flcli at ucdavis.edu (Fei Li) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 03:26:01 +0000 Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts Message-ID: <1425353159767.75578@UCDAVIS.EDU> Hi everyone, The website is nearly done. Thanks to everyone who helped out with this effort and other efforts. We did some great work, but we're not done yet and time is not a commodity we have much of! I'd like to get the site published tomorrow before 5 PM tomorrow. Luckily, it's not *that* tall of an order. We have some content that needs to be put in. Rob was kind enough to provide some paragraphs to our web team, but I'd like to hear from all of you as well. The sooner, the better! How would you answer these questions? 1) What is municipal fiber? 2) Why is municipal fiber good for Davis? 3) How can we bring municipal fiber to Davis? That's it. Doesn't have to be long. Maybe a paragraph or two tops. Try to keep it on the simple side if you want. No need to go into technical detail, nor make promises we may or may not be able to keep. Your answers will be edited and used as content for the front page. If anyone wants to take the lead as a writer in the future, then please let me. For now we're just trying to drum up some support and pave the way for a full-fledged site with fact sheets and numbers later. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From flcli at ucdavis.edu Mon Mar 2 19:39:21 2015 From: flcli at ucdavis.edu (Fei Li) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 03:39:21 +0000 Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts In-Reply-To: <1425353159767.75578@UCDAVIS.EDU> References: <1425353159767.75578@UCDAVIS.EDU> Message-ID: <1425353959682.22540@UCDAVIS.EDU> Correction: If anyone wants to take the lead as a writer in the future, then please let me KNOW*****. :) ________________________________ From: davisgig-bounces at list.omsoft.com on behalf of Fei Li Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 7:26 PM To: davisgig at list.omsoft.com Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts Hi everyone, The website is nearly done. Thanks to everyone who helped out with this effort and other efforts. We did some great work, but we're not done yet and time is not a commodity we have much of! I'd like to get the site published tomorrow before 5 PM tomorrow. Luckily, it's not *that* tall of an order. We have some content that needs to be put in. Rob was kind enough to provide some paragraphs to our web team, but I'd like to hear from all of you as well. The sooner, the better! How would you answer these questions? 1) What is municipal fiber? 2) Why is municipal fiber good for Davis? 3) How can we bring municipal fiber to Davis? That's it. Doesn't have to be long. Maybe a paragraph or two tops. Try to keep it on the simple side if you want. No need to go into technical detail, nor make promises we may or may not be able to keep. Your answers will be edited and used as content for the front page. If anyone wants to take the lead as a writer in the future, then please let me. For now we're just trying to drum up some support and pave the way for a full-fledged site with fact sheets and numbers later. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christopher at newrules.org Tue Mar 3 06:33:45 2015 From: christopher at newrules.org (Christopher Mitchell) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 09:33:45 -0500 Subject: [Davisgig] Recently in Community Networks... Week of 3/3 Message-ID: *Recent Stories from MuniNetworks.org - a project of the Institute for Local Self-Reliance. Instructions for unsubscribing appear at bottom. Send feedback. Forward Widely.* *I'm at Freedom to Connect ! I'm presenting later this morning - webcast here for $25. F2C is well worth supporting.* *What a week! * Cable Companies Lose Big at FCC, Barriers to Community Broadband Struck Down Thu, February 26, 2015 | Posted by rebecca *For Immediate Release*: February 26, 2015 *Contact*: Christina DiPasquale, 202.716.1953, Christina at fitzgibbonmedia.com *BREAKING: Cable Companies Lose Big at FCC, Barriers to Community Broadband Struck Down* Two southern cities today persuaded the Federal Communications Commission to recognize their right to build their own publicly owned Internet networks where existing providers had refused to invest in modern connections. The 3-2 FCC vote removes barriers for municipal networks in Chattanooga, Tennessee and Wilson, North Carolina, to extend their high-quality Internet service to nearby areas. ... Our Statement Here ... Republican Tennessee Leader Endorses Local Authority Thu, February 26, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez Republican State Senator Janice Bowling from Tennessee is once again speaking out in favor of local telecommunications authority. On Monday, she published an op-ed in the Tennessean titled *"Don't limit high-speed broadband to big cities,"*noting that rural communities often have no choice but to build their own infrastructure to obtain fast, reliable, affordable Internet access for residents and businesses. Bowling refers to Tullahoma, her own home town, where economic growth is strong and Internet access is affordable. Tullahoma has a history of increasing speeds without increasing rates and now offers gigabit service for around $100 . Unfortunately, Tullahoma is surrounded by communities it cannot help due to the state limitations. ... Senator Bowling is a Champion of Local Choice - More Here ... City Council Moves Forward on Muni Project in Ellsworth, Maine Tue, February 24, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez The Ellsworth City Council voted on February 9th to proceed with the first steps to developing yet another municipal fiber network in Maine. Community leaders plan to develop open access fiber infrastructure. Five ISPs have already expressed an interest in working with the city to provide services via the network. Ellsworth is home to approximately 7,500 people and is located along the south not far from the central coast. The Ellsworth American reports that council members decided unanimously to lease a parcel of land on which to place a headend facility. The Ellsworth Business Development Corporation (EBDC), which also obtained a $250,000 grant to expand high-speed Internet in Ellsworth, will lease the property. The grant came from the Northern Border Regional Commission in 2014 . ... Read About Yet Another Smart Maine Approach ... Mesa's Focus on Dig Once and Fiber Leases Pays Off - Community Broadband Bits Podcast 139 Tue, February 24, 2015 | Posted by christopher Arizona's city of Mesa is one of the largest communities in the nation to benefit from the city taking role in ensuring conduit and fiber are available throughout the area. This week we talk with Alex Deshuk, the city's Manager of Technology and Innovation that was brought on in 2008 . We talk about how Mesa has, for longer than a decade, ensured that it was putting conduit in the ground and making fiber available to independent providers as needed to ensure they had multiple options around town and especially to select areas where they wanted to encourage development. Having this fiber available has helped to encourage high tech investment, including the new Apple Global Command Center. ... Listen to the Show Here ... Read the transcript from this episode here ... Opelika Speaks From Experience: Support Local Authority! Wed, February 25, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez Opelika has offered FTTH to residents and businesses for less than six months but already it is singing the praises of local choice. Mayor Gary Fuller is now speaking out in an opinion piece in AL.com , encouraging the FCC to allow Wilson, Chattanooga, and other communities to have the same opportunity as Opelika. Mayor Fuller points out that local telecommunications authority is an organic outgrowth of local self-reliance: Cities have always been at the heart of economic expansion, entrepreneurialism, and local connection to citizens, charged with ensuring high-quality education for our children, caring for our sick and elderly neighbors, and laying the foundation for shared prosperity. As we look to the years ahead, high-speed broadband will only become more and more important to the quality and vitality of our community. That's why in Opelika, I led the charge to become the first city in Alabama to offer this cutting edge technology, both to residential and business customers. As a result, Opelika citizens now have access to fast, reliable broadband speeds that will turn possibilities into real opportunities. Businesses now have more opportunities to expand and grow, work more effectively and efficiently, and compete in a larger market. ... Read the Full Coverage Here ... Mitchell to Speak in Syracuse on March 4th Sat, February 28, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez Chris will travel to Syracuse, New York to speak on March 4th as part of Syracuse MetroNet's Broadband Speaker Series. If you are in the area and interested in attending, the lecture will be at 7 p.m. at Grewen Auditorium at the Le Moyne College campus. A PDF of the press release is available online. Syracuse MetroNet serves fifteen community anchor institutions, including hospitals, educational institutions, government agencies, and community organizations. Unfortunately, the connectivity situation for businesses and residents needs a better solution. Last fall, Syracuse Mayor Stephanie Miner expressed interest in developing a municipal network to improve connectivity in this community of 147,000. Residents now depend on Time Warner Cable for service and do not treasure the idea of dealing with an even bigger behemoth, should the merger with Comcast come to pass. ... Come on Out! ... Rochester Pursues Business Case Study for Muni Network in Minnesota Mon, February 23, 2015 | Posted by rebecca The Rochester City Council recently voted unanimously to move forward with a study on the possibilities of publicly owned broadband in this southeastern city. Rochester will then decide whether to move forward with bids to form a public-private partnership for a network, or pursue another path. After receiving dozens of calls from his constituents, City Councilman Michael Wojcik is asking his colleagues to consider a municipal network. Rochester?s area holds a population of about 110,000, and is home to the world-famous Mayo Clinic . According to the Rochester Post-Bulletin , Charter Communications operates its cable TV and Internet services under a franchise agreement with the city. That agreement is up for a renewal on March 31. ... Read our Full Coverage Here ... Benton Foundation Article Dives Into Upcoming FCC Decision and Section 706 Wed, February 25, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez Kevin Taglang, recently published an excellent explanatory post for the Benton Foundation entitled *What Section 706 Means for Net Neutrality, Municipal Networks, and Universal Broadband . *He provides just the right amount of detail to get one up top speed on the upcoming decision and why it promises to be so influential. Additionally, he summarizes many federal programs relating to Internet access. We already know that February 26th will be an historic day in telecommunications. On that day, the FCC's decision on new network neutrality rules and municipal broadband networks has the potential to literally change millions of lives. The decision will impact education, economic development, jobs, healthcare, communications, utilities - you name it. ... This is a Great Resource from Benton ... Community Broadband Media Roundup - February 27 Sat, February 28, 2015 | Posted by rebecca This week, the FCC made an historic decision in favor of municipal networks in Chattanooga, TN and Wilson, NC. Chris was in Washington, DC to witness the vote, hear the testimony, and celebrate the hard work of several organizations. As Brendan Sasso with the National Journal reported, "The issue is one of the most controversial that the FCC will vote on this year. But it was largely overshadowed Thursday by the even more explosive debate over net-neutrality regulations." We have full coverage of both decisions this week. *Municipal Broadband Decision* *Feds Nullify State Laws on City Internet* : Net neutrality may get more attention, but the FCC is also making a major push for community Internet service?a priority for Obama. This by Brendan Sasso, National Journal... ... See all the Statements here in the Roundup ... -- You can always find our most recent stories and other resources at http://MuniNetworks.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Community Networks Weekly Updates" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to communitynetworks-weekly+unsubscribe at ilsr.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/a/ilsr.org/d/optout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From flcli at ucdavis.edu Tue Mar 3 14:20:10 2015 From: flcli at ucdavis.edu (Fei Li) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 22:20:10 +0000 Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts In-Reply-To: <1425353159767.75578@UCDAVIS.EDU> References: <1425353159767.75578@UCDAVIS.EDU> Message-ID: <1425421209983.45930@UCDAVIS.EDU> Thanks to everyone who replied. Here's what we've got. Please pick this apart! Is it good enough for now? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- You're paying too much for slow internet. Your internet is slow. It's expensive, it's limited, and it's unreliable. How much of your time is lost to buffering videos on YouTube and Netflix? How many times have your Skype calls dropped unexpectedly? Do you really need the added stress of data caps on your internet? Your options are limited, and your current service providers fine with this. We're sick of it. And we're going to fix that with community fiber. What is community fiber? You might have heard it called municipal fiber, or community broadband. We think of it as a modern infrastructure for a modern city. Davis community fiber is a brand new, state of the art, city-owned telecommunications operation. Community fiber would provide neighborhoods, businesses and schools with the internet infrastructure they need to stay competitive in the world. The possibilities are endless when we are no longer bound to obsolete, fragile, and sluggish copper phone and cable lines. Much like the copper networks installed 100 years ago, fiber networks will be used for decades to come. With the adoption of fiber optic networks, Davis can remain a leader in science, technology, and quality of life. Why is community fiber good for Davis? The advantages of community fiber are as numerous as they are outstanding. Here is just a small selection of the benefits that are made possible through community fiber in Davis: * Truly unlimited, reliable and lightning-fast service at prices that match--or even beat--currently available plans. * Property values will go up. * A new revenue stream for the city, cheaper maintenance costs, market competition and even resurfaced roads. Really! * Your pick from a wide variety of internet, television and phone options from multiple providers, all served from the city network. * Fast. Wifi. Everywhere. * Public accountability. Community fiber is made for you. When you have a concern, your voice matters. Many of these things are nigh impossible to implement with our aging networks, but community fiber will open the doors to this and so much more. How can we bring community fiber to Davis? As with all good things, there is still a lot of hard work to be done. We're partnering with Davis Community Network, a citizen-driven, non-profit organization that first brought internet access to Davis in 1993. Several cities across the nation have already brought this dream to life through groups like us. There is only one thing missing: You. With your support we can make sure that Davis remains exceptional. You can help. Keep in touch. We'll keep you up-to-date with the latest news and show you how to get involved with this community-driven effort. ________________________________ From: davisgig-bounces at list.omsoft.com on behalf of Fei Li Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 7:26 PM To: davisgig at list.omsoft.com Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts Hi everyone, The website is nearly done. Thanks to everyone who helped out with this effort and other efforts. We did some great work, but we're not done yet and time is not a commodity we have much of! I'd like to get the site published tomorrow before 5 PM tomorrow. Luckily, it's not *that* tall of an order. We have some content that needs to be put in. Rob was kind enough to provide some paragraphs to our web team, but I'd like to hear from all of you as well. The sooner, the better! How would you answer these questions? 1) What is municipal fiber? 2) Why is municipal fiber good for Davis? 3) How can we bring municipal fiber to Davis? That's it. Doesn't have to be long. Maybe a paragraph or two tops. Try to keep it on the simple side if you want. No need to go into technical detail, nor make promises we may or may not be able to keep. Your answers will be edited and used as content for the front page. If anyone wants to take the lead as a writer in the future, then please let me. For now we're just trying to drum up some support and pave the way for a full-fledged site with fact sheets and numbers later. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at dcn.org Tue Mar 3 15:16:51 2015 From: steve at dcn.org (Steve McMahon) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 15:16:51 -0800 Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts In-Reply-To: <1425421209983.45930@UCDAVIS.EDU> References: <1425353159767.75578@UCDAVIS.EDU> <1425421209983.45930@UCDAVIS.EDU> Message-ID: A few excellent resources for linking and quoting: 1) The Yolo County Broadband Report 2) The President's Report on Community-Based Broadband Solutions 3) White House FACT SHEET: Broadband That Works: Promoting Competition & Local Choice In Next-Generation Connectivity All of these are very current. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Fei Li wrote: > Thanks to everyone who replied. Here's what we've got. Please pick this > apart! Is it good enough for now? > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > You're paying too much for slow internet. > > Your internet is slow. It's expensive, it's limited, and it's unreliable. > How much of your time is lost to buffering videos on YouTube and Netflix? > How many times have your Skype calls dropped unexpectedly? Do you really > need the added stress of data caps on your internet? Your options are > limited, and *your current service providers fine with this.* > > We're sick of it. And we're going to fix that with community fiber > . > What is community fiber? > > You might have heard it called municipal fiber, or community broadband. We > think of it as a modern infrastructure for a modern city. > > Davis community fiber is a brand new, state of the art, city-owned > telecommunications operation. Community fiber would provide neighborhoods, > businesses and schools with the internet infrastructure they need to stay > competitive in the world. The possibilities are endless when we are no > longer bound to obsolete, fragile, and sluggish copper phone and cable > lines. > > Much like the copper networks installed 100 years ago, fiber networks will > be used for decades to come. With the adoption of fiber optic networks, > Davis can remain a leader in science, technology, and quality of life. > Why is community fiber good for Davis? > > The advantages of community fiber are as numerous as they are outstanding. > Here is just a small selection of the benefits that are made possible > through community fiber in Davis: > > - Truly unlimited, reliable and lightning-fast service at prices that > match--or even beat--currently available plans. > - Property values will go up. > > - A new revenue stream for the city, cheaper maintenance costs, market > competition and even resurfaced roads. Really! > - Your pick from a wide variety of internet, television and phone > options from multiple providers, all served from the city network. > - Fast. Wifi. Everywhere. > - Public accountability. Community fiber is made for you. When you > have a concern, your voice matters. > > Many of these things are nigh impossible to implement with our aging > networks, but community fiber will open the doors to this and so much more. > How can we bring community fiber to Davis? > > As with all good things, there is still a lot of hard work to be done. > We're partnering with Davis Community Network > , a citizen-driven, > non-profit organization that first brought internet access to Davis in > 1993. Several cities across the nation have already brought this dream to > life through groups like us. There is only one thing missing: *You*. With > your support we can make sure that Davis remains exceptional. > You can help. > > Keep in touch. We'll keep you up-to-date > with the latest news and show you how to get involved with this > community-driven effort. > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* davisgig-bounces at list.omsoft.com > on behalf of Fei Li > *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 7:26 PM > *To:* davisgig at list.omsoft.com > *Subject:* [Davisgig] Thoughts > > > Hi everyone, > > > The website is nearly done. Thanks to everyone who helped out with this > effort and other efforts. We did some great work, but we're not done yet > and time is not a commodity we have much of! > > > I'd like to get the site published tomorrow before 5 PM tomorrow. > Luckily, it's not *that* tall of an order. > > > We have some content that needs to be put in. Rob was kind enough to > provide some paragraphs to our web team, but I'd like to hear from all of > you as well. The sooner, the better! > > > How would you answer these questions? > > > 1) What is municipal fiber? > > > 2) Why is municipal fiber good for Davis? > > > 3) How can we bring municipal fiber to Davis? > > > That's it. Doesn't have to be long. Maybe a paragraph or two tops. Try > to keep it on the simple side if you want. No need to go into technical > detail, nor make promises we may or may not be able to keep. Your answers > will be edited and used as content for the front page. If anyone wants to > take the lead as a writer in the future, then please let me. For now we're > just trying to drum up some support and pave the way for a full-fledged > site with fact sheets and numbers later. > > > Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > > Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: > > http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start > > Davisgig mailing list > Davisgig at list.omsoft.com > http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From flcli at ucdavis.edu Tue Mar 3 16:18:44 2015 From: flcli at ucdavis.edu (Fei Li) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 00:18:44 +0000 Subject: [Davisgig] It's up! Message-ID: http://www.davisgig.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pbiddle at omsoft.com Tue Mar 3 16:21:59 2015 From: pbiddle at omsoft.com (Paul) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 16:21:59 -0800 Subject: [Davisgig] It's up! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54F65027.1020409@omsoft.com> Just a heads up: if you view the page with noscript then it is just a blank gray background. On 3/3/2015 4:18 PM, Fei Li wrote: > > http://www.davisgig.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: > > http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start > > Davisgig mailing list > Davisgig at list.omsoft.com > http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From taylor.buley at mcnaughton.media Tue Mar 3 16:26:10 2015 From: taylor.buley at mcnaughton.media (Taylor Buley) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 16:26:10 -0800 Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts In-Reply-To: References: <1425353159767.75578@UCDAVIS.EDU> <1425421209983.45930@UCDAVIS.EDU> Message-ID: Howdy - I'm Taylor. I've just joined here, so I apologize if these comments are late or otherwise unuseful. I like a lot of what's been written. I would strongly advise against a pricing argument so early on in this effort. I think price is something to avoid talking about at all for various reasons, among them that for this to be politically viable I imagine it would have to be economically viable and sold at a price greater than the cost to offer the service. Unlike ISPs, which subsidize their prices with Web portals, captive search, privacy-violating data partnerships and the like (the new hot deal in Austin and Kansas City is $60/month for privacy from AT&T), I would not like to see low price expectations to force a municipal operator to have to stomach such practices. Moreover, empirically, if you look at how networks spend their marketing dollars it's typically feature-based: speed, simplicity, access and the like (coverage! 4 shows at a time! the hopper!). The market research big bucks suggest to me that there is something to a feature-based argument and that a community effort should consider it as well. Quick notes: * I would definitely "brand" this groups effort, at least with a name with caps. Used "Davis Community Fiber" in what I banged out below * Says "you" need to get involved, doesn't repeatedly make it obvious on how to get involved. If involvement is the call to action you shouldn't have to scroll a long way to see it * Pretending I want to stay in touch (I do): how does the information come to me? A Facebook page to like? Twitter feed to follow? Newsletter? * Speed. Also, I find it useful to translate speeds into time it takes to download X. E.g. much of Davis would have to have 5x its current average speeds to support streaming House of Cards on Netflix on the latest (4K) TVs. * I think "going local" is another strong argument to make. Where do you want your techies to live when your Internet goes down? * I do not think Davis is exceptional in terms of today's infrastructure, I think a point we may try to make is that we should be exceptional but today fall short of expectations * Switches tenses "DCF is a brand new... would provide" in both future tense and present The notes hit seem: 0) why you care about this 1) who we are and 2) how you to get involved. Playing off the content as is and one of Steve's links, I feel like something short like this could pack a brief punch: > You probably don't have high-speed Internet. 61% of Davis doesn't have what the FCC today qualifies as broadband access (>10Meg), according to a draft 2015 Yolo County [broadband survey]( http://www.yolocounty.org/home/showdocument?id=27240). Some 44% of our neighbors don't have fast enough connections to watch a YouTube video without worrying (>5-6Meg). > Davis was once a leader in Internet connectivity, with the non-profit Davis Community Network first bringing Internet access in 1993. Instead of trying to play catchup with today's speeds, Davis Community Fiber is a city-owned municipal telecomm operator partnering with Davis Community Network to propose leapfrogging Davis out of "the Copper Ages" and onto fiber optic network infrastructure that boasts data speeds approaching the speed of light. > This nascent effort is just underway and now is the time for community members to come forward and show support. [Sign up](current URL is localhost) for our newsletter and join our network of neighbors working to make the next mark on Davis's legacy of exceptionalism. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Steve McMahon wrote: > A few excellent resources for linking and quoting: > > 1) The Yolo County Broadband Report > > > 2) The President's Report on Community-Based Broadband Solutions > > > 3) White House FACT SHEET: Broadband That Works: Promoting Competition & > Local Choice In Next-Generation Connectivity > > > All of these are very current. > > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Fei Li wrote: > >> Thanks to everyone who replied. Here's what we've got. Please pick this >> apart! Is it good enough for now? >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> You're paying too much for slow internet. >> >> Your internet is slow. It's expensive, it's limited, and it's unreliable. >> How much of your time is lost to buffering videos on YouTube and Netflix? >> How many times have your Skype calls dropped unexpectedly? Do you really >> need the added stress of data caps on your internet? Your options are >> limited, and *your current service providers fine with this.* >> >> We're sick of it. And we're going to fix that with community fiber >> . >> What is community fiber? >> >> You might have heard it called municipal fiber, or community broadband. >> We think of it as a modern infrastructure for a modern city. >> >> Davis community fiber is a brand new, state of the art, city-owned >> telecommunications operation. Community fiber would provide neighborhoods, >> businesses and schools with the internet infrastructure they need to stay >> competitive in the world. The possibilities are endless when we are no >> longer bound to obsolete, fragile, and sluggish copper phone and cable >> lines. >> >> Much like the copper networks installed 100 years ago, fiber networks >> will be used for decades to come. With the adoption of fiber optic >> networks, Davis can remain a leader in science, technology, and quality of >> life. >> Why is community fiber good for Davis? >> >> The advantages of community fiber are as numerous as they are >> outstanding. Here is just a small selection of the benefits that are made >> possible through community fiber in Davis: >> >> - Truly unlimited, reliable and lightning-fast service at prices that >> match--or even beat--currently available plans. >> - Property values will go up. >> >> - A new revenue stream for the city, cheaper maintenance costs, >> market competition and even resurfaced roads. Really! >> - Your pick from a wide variety of internet, television and phone >> options from multiple providers, all served from the city network. >> - Fast. Wifi. Everywhere. >> - Public accountability. Community fiber is made for you. When you >> have a concern, your voice matters. >> >> Many of these things are nigh impossible to implement with our aging >> networks, but community fiber will open the doors to this and so much more. >> How can we bring community fiber to Davis? >> >> As with all good things, there is still a lot of hard work to be done. >> We're partnering with Davis Community Network >> , a citizen-driven, >> non-profit organization that first brought internet access to Davis in >> 1993. Several cities across the nation have already brought this dream to >> life through groups like us. There is only one thing missing: *You*. >> With your support we can make sure that Davis remains exceptional. >> You can help. >> >> Keep in touch. We'll keep you up-to-date >> with the latest news and show you how to get involved with this >> community-driven effort. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* davisgig-bounces at list.omsoft.com < >> davisgig-bounces at list.omsoft.com> on behalf of Fei Li >> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 7:26 PM >> *To:* davisgig at list.omsoft.com >> *Subject:* [Davisgig] Thoughts >> >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> The website is nearly done. Thanks to everyone who helped out with this >> effort and other efforts. We did some great work, but we're not done yet >> and time is not a commodity we have much of! >> >> >> I'd like to get the site published tomorrow before 5 PM tomorrow. >> Luckily, it's not *that* tall of an order. >> >> >> We have some content that needs to be put in. Rob was kind enough to >> provide some paragraphs to our web team, but I'd like to hear from all of >> you as well. The sooner, the better! >> >> >> How would you answer these questions? >> >> >> 1) What is municipal fiber? >> >> >> 2) Why is municipal fiber good for Davis? >> >> >> 3) How can we bring municipal fiber to Davis? >> >> >> That's it. Doesn't have to be long. Maybe a paragraph or two tops. Try >> to keep it on the simple side if you want. No need to go into technical >> detail, nor make promises we may or may not be able to keep. Your answers >> will be edited and used as content for the front page. If anyone wants to >> take the lead as a writer in the future, then please let me. For now we're >> just trying to drum up some support and pave the way for a full-fledged >> site with fact sheets and numbers later. >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: >> >> http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start >> >> Davisgig mailing list >> Davisgig at list.omsoft.com >> http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: > > http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start > > Davisgig mailing list > Davisgig at list.omsoft.com > http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at dcn.org Tue Mar 3 16:40:05 2015 From: steve at dcn.org (Steve McMahon) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 16:40:05 -0800 Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts In-Reply-To: References: <1425353159767.75578@UCDAVIS.EDU> <1425421209983.45930@UCDAVIS.EDU> Message-ID: Great points, and I agree on emphasizing features. But a point I've seen over and over again is that you can't expect good prices for broadband where there's little or no competition. Try getting those AT&T prices in cities without Google Broadband. Also, a nice piece on the real cost of privacy with AT&T: https://gigaom.com/2015/02/19/dont-let-att-mislead-you-about-its-29-privacy-fee/ Avoiding that kind of pricing stunt is part of what we hope for from a more competitive situation. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Taylor Buley wrote: > Howdy - I'm Taylor. I've just joined here, so I apologize if these > comments are late or otherwise unuseful. > > I like a lot of what's been written. I would strongly advise against a > pricing argument so early on in this effort. > > I think price is something to avoid talking about at all for various > reasons, among them that for this to be politically viable I imagine it > would have to be economically viable and sold at a price greater than the > cost to offer the service. Unlike ISPs, which subsidize their prices with > Web portals, captive search, privacy-violating data partnerships and the > like (the new hot deal in Austin and Kansas City is $60/month for privacy > from AT&T), I would not like to see low price expectations to force a > municipal operator to have to stomach such practices. Moreover, > empirically, if you look at how networks spend their marketing dollars it's > typically feature-based: speed, simplicity, access and the like (coverage! > 4 shows at a time! the hopper!). The market research big bucks suggest to > me that there is something to a feature-based argument and that a community > effort should consider it as well. > > Quick notes: > * I would definitely "brand" this groups effort, at least with a name with > caps. Used "Davis Community Fiber" in what I banged out below > * Says "you" need to get involved, doesn't repeatedly make it obvious on > how to get involved. If involvement is the call to action you shouldn't > have to scroll a long way to see it > * Pretending I want to stay in touch (I do): how does the information come > to me? A Facebook page to like? Twitter feed to follow? Newsletter? > * Speed. Also, I find it useful to translate speeds into time it takes to > download X. E.g. much of Davis would have to have 5x its current average > speeds to support streaming House of Cards on Netflix on the latest (4K) > TVs. > * I think "going local" is another strong argument to make. Where do you > want your techies to live when your Internet goes down? > * I do not think Davis is exceptional in terms of today's infrastructure, > I think a point we may try to make is that we should be exceptional but > today fall short of expectations > * Switches tenses "DCF is a brand new... would provide" in both future > tense and present > > The notes hit seem: 0) why you care about this 1) who we are and 2) how > you to get involved. Playing off the content as is and one of Steve's > links, I feel like something short like this could pack a brief punch: > > > You probably don't have high-speed Internet. 61% of Davis doesn't have > what the FCC today qualifies as broadband access (>10Meg), according to a > draft 2015 Yolo County [broadband survey]( > http://www.yolocounty.org/home/showdocument?id=27240). Some 44% of our > neighbors don't have fast enough connections to watch a YouTube video > without worrying (>5-6Meg). > > > Davis was once a leader in Internet connectivity, with the non-profit > Davis Community Network first bringing Internet access in 1993. Instead of > trying to play catchup with today's speeds, Davis Community Fiber is a > city-owned municipal telecomm operator partnering with Davis Community > Network to propose leapfrogging Davis out of "the Copper Ages" and onto > fiber optic network infrastructure that boasts data speeds approaching the > speed of light. > > > This nascent effort is just underway and now is the time for community > members to come forward and show support. [Sign up](current URL is > localhost) for our newsletter and join our network of neighbors working to > make the next mark on Davis's legacy of exceptionalism. > > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Steve McMahon wrote: > >> A few excellent resources for linking and quoting: >> >> 1) The Yolo County Broadband Report >> >> >> 2) The President's Report on Community-Based Broadband Solutions >> >> >> 3) White House FACT SHEET: Broadband That Works: Promoting Competition & >> Local Choice In Next-Generation Connectivity >> >> >> All of these are very current. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Fei Li wrote: >> >>> Thanks to everyone who replied. Here's what we've got. Please pick >>> this apart! Is it good enough for now? >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> You're paying too much for slow internet. >>> >>> Your internet is slow. It's expensive, it's limited, and it's >>> unreliable. How much of your time is lost to buffering videos on YouTube >>> and Netflix? How many times have your Skype calls dropped unexpectedly? Do >>> you really need the added stress of data caps on your internet? Your >>> options are limited, and *your current service providers fine with >>> this.* >>> >>> We're sick of it. And we're going to fix that with community fiber >>> . >>> What is community fiber? >>> >>> You might have heard it called municipal fiber, or community broadband. >>> We think of it as a modern infrastructure for a modern city. >>> >>> Davis community fiber is a brand new, state of the art, city-owned >>> telecommunications operation. Community fiber would provide neighborhoods, >>> businesses and schools with the internet infrastructure they need to stay >>> competitive in the world. The possibilities are endless when we are no >>> longer bound to obsolete, fragile, and sluggish copper phone and cable >>> lines. >>> >>> Much like the copper networks installed 100 years ago, fiber networks >>> will be used for decades to come. With the adoption of fiber optic >>> networks, Davis can remain a leader in science, technology, and quality of >>> life. >>> Why is community fiber good for Davis? >>> >>> The advantages of community fiber are as numerous as they are >>> outstanding. Here is just a small selection of the benefits that are made >>> possible through community fiber in Davis: >>> >>> - Truly unlimited, reliable and lightning-fast service at prices >>> that match--or even beat--currently available plans. >>> - Property values will go up. >>> >>> - A new revenue stream for the city, cheaper maintenance costs, >>> market competition and even resurfaced roads. Really! >>> - Your pick from a wide variety of internet, television and phone >>> options from multiple providers, all served from the city network. >>> - Fast. Wifi. Everywhere. >>> - Public accountability. Community fiber is made for you. When you >>> have a concern, your voice matters. >>> >>> Many of these things are nigh impossible to implement with our aging >>> networks, but community fiber will open the doors to this and so much more. >>> How can we bring community fiber to Davis? >>> >>> As with all good things, there is still a lot of hard work to be done. >>> We're partnering with Davis Community Network >>> , a citizen-driven, >>> non-profit organization that first brought internet access to Davis in >>> 1993. Several cities across the nation have already brought this dream to >>> life through groups like us. There is only one thing missing: *You*. >>> With your support we can make sure that Davis remains exceptional. >>> You can help. >>> >>> Keep in touch. We'll keep you up-to-date >>> with the latest news and show you how to get involved with this >>> community-driven effort. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* davisgig-bounces at list.omsoft.com < >>> davisgig-bounces at list.omsoft.com> on behalf of Fei Li >> > >>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 7:26 PM >>> *To:* davisgig at list.omsoft.com >>> *Subject:* [Davisgig] Thoughts >>> >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> >>> The website is nearly done. Thanks to everyone who helped out with >>> this effort and other efforts. We did some great work, but we're not done >>> yet and time is not a commodity we have much of! >>> >>> >>> I'd like to get the site published tomorrow before 5 PM tomorrow. >>> Luckily, it's not *that* tall of an order. >>> >>> >>> We have some content that needs to be put in. Rob was kind enough to >>> provide some paragraphs to our web team, but I'd like to hear from all of >>> you as well. The sooner, the better! >>> >>> >>> How would you answer these questions? >>> >>> >>> 1) What is municipal fiber? >>> >>> >>> 2) Why is municipal fiber good for Davis? >>> >>> >>> 3) How can we bring municipal fiber to Davis? >>> >>> >>> That's it. Doesn't have to be long. Maybe a paragraph or two tops. Try >>> to keep it on the simple side if you want. No need to go into technical >>> detail, nor make promises we may or may not be able to keep. Your answers >>> will be edited and used as content for the front page. If anyone wants to >>> take the lead as a writer in the future, then please let me. For now we're >>> just trying to drum up some support and pave the way for a full-fledged >>> site with fact sheets and numbers later. >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: >>> >>> http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start >>> >>> Davisgig mailing list >>> Davisgig at list.omsoft.com >>> http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: >> >> http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start >> >> Davisgig mailing list >> Davisgig at list.omsoft.com >> http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From taylor.buley at mcnaughton.media Tue Mar 3 16:53:37 2015 From: taylor.buley at mcnaughton.media (Taylor Buley) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 16:53:37 -0800 Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts In-Reply-To: References: <1425353159767.75578@UCDAVIS.EDU> <1425421209983.45930@UCDAVIS.EDU> Message-ID: Sorry to continue to spout off before introducing myself in person but I'll attempt to be at tomorrow's meeting to pay any pipers. I think that your point is good argument for fence-sitters to get involved even if they don't necessarily want a fiber connect themselves - worst case, we're exploring on how to offer the kinds of options that can be expected to drive down prices across the market. I totally agree with the message but for clarity of message I would try to avoid causal reasoning in a call to action. (Not to bring up peering here, but this is interesting http://blog.level3.com/open-internet/observations-internet-middleman/ and "helping the Internet achieve its full potential" seems good marketing) On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Steve McMahon wrote: > Great points, and I agree on emphasizing features. But a point I've seen > over and over again is that you can't expect good prices for broadband > where there's little or no competition. Try getting those AT&T prices in > cities without Google Broadband. > > Also, a nice piece on the real cost of privacy with AT&T: > https://gigaom.com/2015/02/19/dont-let-att-mislead-you-about-its-29-privacy-fee/ > > Avoiding that kind of pricing stunt is part of what we hope for from a > more competitive situation. > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Taylor Buley < > taylor.buley at mcnaughton.media> wrote: > >> Howdy - I'm Taylor. I've just joined here, so I apologize if these >> comments are late or otherwise unuseful. >> >> I like a lot of what's been written. I would strongly advise against a >> pricing argument so early on in this effort. >> >> I think price is something to avoid talking about at all for various >> reasons, among them that for this to be politically viable I imagine it >> would have to be economically viable and sold at a price greater than the >> cost to offer the service. Unlike ISPs, which subsidize their prices with >> Web portals, captive search, privacy-violating data partnerships and the >> like (the new hot deal in Austin and Kansas City is $60/month for privacy >> from AT&T), I would not like to see low price expectations to force a >> municipal operator to have to stomach such practices. Moreover, >> empirically, if you look at how networks spend their marketing dollars it's >> typically feature-based: speed, simplicity, access and the like (coverage! >> 4 shows at a time! the hopper!). The market research big bucks suggest to >> me that there is something to a feature-based argument and that a community >> effort should consider it as well. >> >> Quick notes: >> * I would definitely "brand" this groups effort, at least with a name >> with caps. Used "Davis Community Fiber" in what I banged out below >> * Says "you" need to get involved, doesn't repeatedly make it obvious on >> how to get involved. If involvement is the call to action you shouldn't >> have to scroll a long way to see it >> * Pretending I want to stay in touch (I do): how does the information >> come to me? A Facebook page to like? Twitter feed to follow? Newsletter? >> * Speed. Also, I find it useful to translate speeds into time it takes to >> download X. E.g. much of Davis would have to have 5x its current average >> speeds to support streaming House of Cards on Netflix on the latest (4K) >> TVs. >> * I think "going local" is another strong argument to make. Where do you >> want your techies to live when your Internet goes down? >> * I do not think Davis is exceptional in terms of today's infrastructure, >> I think a point we may try to make is that we should be exceptional but >> today fall short of expectations >> * Switches tenses "DCF is a brand new... would provide" in both future >> tense and present >> >> The notes hit seem: 0) why you care about this 1) who we are and 2) how >> you to get involved. Playing off the content as is and one of Steve's >> links, I feel like something short like this could pack a brief punch: >> >> > You probably don't have high-speed Internet. 61% of Davis doesn't have >> what the FCC today qualifies as broadband access (>10Meg), according to a >> draft 2015 Yolo County [broadband survey]( >> http://www.yolocounty.org/home/showdocument?id=27240). Some 44% of our >> neighbors don't have fast enough connections to watch a YouTube video >> without worrying (>5-6Meg). >> >> > Davis was once a leader in Internet connectivity, with the non-profit >> Davis Community Network first bringing Internet access in 1993. Instead of >> trying to play catchup with today's speeds, Davis Community Fiber is a >> city-owned municipal telecomm operator partnering with Davis Community >> Network to propose leapfrogging Davis out of "the Copper Ages" and onto >> fiber optic network infrastructure that boasts data speeds approaching the >> speed of light. >> >> > This nascent effort is just underway and now is the time for community >> members to come forward and show support. [Sign up](current URL is >> localhost) for our newsletter and join our network of neighbors working to >> make the next mark on Davis's legacy of exceptionalism. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Steve McMahon wrote: >> >>> A few excellent resources for linking and quoting: >>> >>> 1) The Yolo County Broadband Report >>> >>> >>> 2) The President's Report on Community-Based Broadband Solutions >>> >>> >>> 3) White House FACT SHEET: Broadband That Works: Promoting Competition >>> & Local Choice In Next-Generation Connectivity >>> >>> >>> All of these are very current. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Fei Li wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks to everyone who replied. Here's what we've got. Please pick >>>> this apart! Is it good enough for now? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> You're paying too much for slow internet. >>>> >>>> Your internet is slow. It's expensive, it's limited, and it's >>>> unreliable. How much of your time is lost to buffering videos on YouTube >>>> and Netflix? How many times have your Skype calls dropped unexpectedly? Do >>>> you really need the added stress of data caps on your internet? Your >>>> options are limited, and *your current service providers fine with >>>> this.* >>>> >>>> We're sick of it. And we're going to fix that with community fiber >>>> . >>>> What is community fiber? >>>> >>>> You might have heard it called municipal fiber, or community broadband. >>>> We think of it as a modern infrastructure for a modern city. >>>> >>>> Davis community fiber is a brand new, state of the art, city-owned >>>> telecommunications operation. Community fiber would provide neighborhoods, >>>> businesses and schools with the internet infrastructure they need to stay >>>> competitive in the world. The possibilities are endless when we are no >>>> longer bound to obsolete, fragile, and sluggish copper phone and cable >>>> lines. >>>> >>>> Much like the copper networks installed 100 years ago, fiber networks >>>> will be used for decades to come. With the adoption of fiber optic >>>> networks, Davis can remain a leader in science, technology, and quality of >>>> life. >>>> Why is community fiber good for Davis? >>>> >>>> The advantages of community fiber are as numerous as they are >>>> outstanding. Here is just a small selection of the benefits that are made >>>> possible through community fiber in Davis: >>>> >>>> - Truly unlimited, reliable and lightning-fast service at prices >>>> that match--or even beat--currently available plans. >>>> - Property values will go up. >>>> >>>> - A new revenue stream for the city, cheaper maintenance costs, >>>> market competition and even resurfaced roads. Really! >>>> - Your pick from a wide variety of internet, television and phone >>>> options from multiple providers, all served from the city network. >>>> - Fast. Wifi. Everywhere. >>>> - Public accountability. Community fiber is made for you. When you >>>> have a concern, your voice matters. >>>> >>>> Many of these things are nigh impossible to implement with our aging >>>> networks, but community fiber will open the doors to this and so much more. >>>> How can we bring community fiber to Davis? >>>> >>>> As with all good things, there is still a lot of hard work to be done. >>>> We're partnering with Davis Community Network >>>> , a citizen-driven, >>>> non-profit organization that first brought internet access to Davis in >>>> 1993. Several cities across the nation have already brought this dream to >>>> life through groups like us. There is only one thing missing: *You*. >>>> With your support we can make sure that Davis remains exceptional. >>>> You can help. >>>> >>>> Keep in touch. We'll keep you up-to-date >>>> with the latest news and show you how to get involved with this >>>> community-driven effort. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* davisgig-bounces at list.omsoft.com < >>>> davisgig-bounces at list.omsoft.com> on behalf of Fei Li < >>>> flcli at ucdavis.edu> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 7:26 PM >>>> *To:* davisgig at list.omsoft.com >>>> *Subject:* [Davisgig] Thoughts >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> >>>> The website is nearly done. Thanks to everyone who helped out with >>>> this effort and other efforts. We did some great work, but we're not done >>>> yet and time is not a commodity we have much of! >>>> >>>> >>>> I'd like to get the site published tomorrow before 5 PM tomorrow. >>>> Luckily, it's not *that* tall of an order. >>>> >>>> >>>> We have some content that needs to be put in. Rob was kind enough to >>>> provide some paragraphs to our web team, but I'd like to hear from all of >>>> you as well. The sooner, the better! >>>> >>>> >>>> How would you answer these questions? >>>> >>>> >>>> 1) What is municipal fiber? >>>> >>>> >>>> 2) Why is municipal fiber good for Davis? >>>> >>>> >>>> 3) How can we bring municipal fiber to Davis? >>>> >>>> >>>> That's it. Doesn't have to be long. Maybe a paragraph or two tops. >>>> Try to keep it on the simple side if you want. No need to go into technical >>>> detail, nor make promises we may or may not be able to keep. Your answers >>>> will be edited and used as content for the front page. If anyone wants to >>>> take the lead as a writer in the future, then please let me. For now we're >>>> just trying to drum up some support and pave the way for a full-fledged >>>> site with fact sheets and numbers later. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: >>>> >>>> http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start >>>> >>>> Davisgig mailing list >>>> Davisgig at list.omsoft.com >>>> http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: >>> >>> http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start >>> >>> Davisgig mailing list >>> Davisgig at list.omsoft.com >>> http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig >>> >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rl at 1st-mile.org Tue Mar 3 16:55:19 2015 From: rl at 1st-mile.org (Richard Lowenberg) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 17:55:19 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts - Be Careful / Be Strategic In-Reply-To: <1425421209983.45930@UCDAVIS.EDU> References: <1425353159767.75578@UCDAVIS.EDU> <1425421209983.45930@UCDAVIS.EDU> Message-ID: <34F4B683-A042-4D7B-9201-F1D3E99DA6ED@1st-mile.org> I will not pick this apart, but will note that language is important. There are a number of statements in this initial text, that I'd be careful of. As a previous poster noted, do not talk about pricing yet. The sentence: "Davis community fiber is a brand new, state of the art, city-owned telecommunications operation." Not yet, if at all. There are many organizational models for local community or regional networks. Be careful in using "municipal fiber", as the city owned or partnered option is but one way to implement a local network. Public-private partnering are ideal, but may or may not be possible. If the City invests in fiber networking, it should be an 'open access' initiative, allowing service providers to lease use of the fiber, to provide competitive services, to the extent that the market will bear. The City, in this case, should only be a provider of public/civic services, while users can have choice of commercial providers using the fiber network, as well as WISPs using the fiber backbone to offer high-bandwidth wireless services. Deployment will have to be phased, as was done in Kansas City and elsewhere, with determination of the extent of the network; will it provide FTTP throughout the City? Be very careful of unsubstantiated nature of the network and of benefits. The more rigorously thought through, the more likely this initiative will be successful. Richard ----------- On Mar 3, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Fei Li wrote: > Thanks to everyone who replied. Here's what we've got. Please pick this apart! Is it good enough for now? > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > You're paying too much for slow internet. > Your internet is slow. It's expensive, it's limited, and it's unreliable. How much of your time is lost to buffering videos on YouTube and Netflix? How many times have your Skype calls dropped unexpectedly? Do you really need the added stress of data caps on your internet? Your options are limited, and your current service providers fine with this. > We're sick of it. And we're going to fix that with community fiber. > What is community fiber? > You might have heard it called municipal fiber, or community broadband. We think of it as a modern infrastructure for a modern city. > Davis community fiber is a brand new, state of the art, city-owned telecommunications operation. Community fiber would provide neighborhoods, businesses and schools with the internet infrastructure they need to stay competitive in the world. The possibilities are endless when we are no longer bound to obsolete, fragile, and sluggish copper phone and cable lines. > Much like the copper networks installed 100 years ago, fiber networks will be used for decades to come. With the adoption of fiber optic networks, Davis can remain a leader in science, technology, and quality of life. > Why is community fiber good for Davis? > The advantages of community fiber are as numerous as they are outstanding. Here is just a small selection of the benefits that are made possible through community fiber in Davis: > Truly unlimited, reliable and lightning-fast service at prices that match--or even beat--currently available plans. > Property values will go up. > A new revenue stream for the city, cheaper maintenance costs, market competition and even resurfaced roads. Really! > Your pick from a wide variety of internet, television and phone options from multiple providers, all served from the city network. > Fast. Wifi. Everywhere. > Public accountability. Community fiber is made for you. When you have a concern, your voice matters. > Many of these things are nigh impossible to implement with our aging networks, but community fiber will open the doors to this and so much more. > How can we bring community fiber to Davis? > As with all good things, there is still a lot of hard work to be done. We're partnering with Davis Community Network, a citizen-driven, non-profit organization that first brought internet access to Davis in 1993. Several cities across the nation have already brought this dream to life through groups like us. There is only one thing missing: You. With your support we can make sure that Davis remains exceptional. > You can help. > Keep in touch. We'll keep you up-to-date with the latest news and show you how to get involved with this community-driven effort. > > > From: davisgig-bounces at list.omsoft.com on behalf of Fei Li > Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 7:26 PM > To: davisgig at list.omsoft.com > Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts > > Hi everyone, > > The website is nearly done. Thanks to everyone who helped out with this effort and other efforts. We did some great work, but we're not done yet and time is not a commodity we have much of! > > I'd like to get the site published tomorrow before 5 PM tomorrow. Luckily, it's not *that* tall of an order. > > We have some content that needs to be put in. Rob was kind enough to provide some paragraphs to our web team, but I'd like to hear from all of you as well. The sooner, the better! > > How would you answer these questions? > > 1) What is municipal fiber? > > 2) Why is municipal fiber good for Davis? > > 3) How can we bring municipal fiber to Davis? > > That's it. Doesn't have to be long. Maybe a paragraph or two tops. Try to keep it on the simple side if you want. No need to go into technical detail, nor make promises we may or may not be able to keep. Your answers will be edited and used as content for the front page. If anyone wants to take the lead as a writer in the future, then please let me. For now we're just trying to drum up some support and pave the way for a full-fledged site with fact sheets and numbers later. > > Thanks! > _______________________________________________ > > Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: > > http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start > > Davisgig mailing list > Davisgig at list.omsoft.com > http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig --------------------------------------------------------- Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director 1st-Mile Institute www.1st-mile.org P. O. 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Therefore, I think that our chances of success will increase greatly if one or more of you picked up the important responsibilities of writing and content production. Please speak up! We can make it official at tomorrow's meeting. Good luck to everyone going to the city council meeting tonight. Knock em dead! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From omrob at omsoft.com Tue Mar 3 17:57:16 2015 From: omrob at omsoft.com (Robert Nickerson) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 17:57:16 -0800 Subject: [Davisgig] Website stuff In-Reply-To: <1425431761845.10149@UCDAVIS.EDU> References: <1425431761845.10149@UCDAVIS.EDU> Message-ID: <54F6667C.40107@omsoft.com> Hi Great input everyone. So this website is finally out for you all to look at. Plus we have a group meeting tomorrow at Sudwerk Everyone on the web team side has put in great effort to make it so! Thanks to you all, web team people And it happens to be locally topical, because there is a pertinent Council Agenda item at 8:30pm. We were thinking, take advantage of that opportunity to talk about the project and refer people to the website. But we don't need to be too hasty here, we only have one chance on a first impression ;) It is a great achievement in one month, and can look at the wording and cogitate on it more, tomorrow. So lets all discusss this tomorrow and a content czar can take charge of making any changes to text in line with the agreed upon goal. Thanks again Fei, Braden, Jordan and anyone else who contributed content to make this happen in a month. WoW! I'll be at the meeting tonight, will give my little 3 minute comment and see how it goes. See you all tomorrow. Thx RAN From dawalter at dcn.org Tue Mar 3 19:56:05 2015 From: dawalter at dcn.org (Douglas A. Walter) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 19:56:05 -0800 Subject: [Davisgig] Website stuff In-Reply-To: <54F6667C.40107@omsoft.com> References: <1425431761845.10149@UCDAVIS.EDU> <54F6667C.40107@omsoft.com> Message-ID: <641733AF-7C6A-4D3F-B687-372E58F9F24F@dcn.org> Hi folks. Well? I was asked by a Council Member to come on down tonight, and comment on the Council item. So I'm not going to "jump the gun," nor spout off the web address yet. But I do want to speak in favor of a Davis community gigabit fiber network, and say that there's a group working to advocate for it. Otherwise, I'm going to suggest that the Plan's Recommendation #1, is a great one, where staff recommends that Council consider a study of a business case for a community network. They say that, because of the expiration of the Comcast contract in 2018, that such a study should be completed by September 2016 at the latest. I'll say that I'm involved in the group, but that tonight I'm speaking for myself only. I'm not going to leave for the Council chamber for another 20 minutes. And, heck, I might bring the laptop with me and listen to any input on my PERSONAL comments tonight. On Mar 3, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Robert Nickerson wrote: > Hi > > Great input everyone. > > So this website is finally out for you all to look at. > Plus we have a group meeting tomorrow at Sudwerk > Everyone on the web team side has put in great effort to make it so! > > Thanks to you all, web team people > > And it happens to be locally topical, because there is a pertinent Council Agenda item at 8:30pm. > > We were thinking, take advantage of that opportunity to talk about > the project and refer people to the website. > > But we don't need to be too hasty here, we only have one chance on a first impression ;) > > It is a great achievement in one month, and can look at the wording and cogitate on it more, tomorrow. > > So lets all discusss this tomorrow and a content czar can take charge > of making any changes to text in line with the agreed upon goal. > > Thanks again Fei, Braden, Jordan and anyone else who contributed content to make this happen in > a month. WoW! > > I'll be at the meeting tonight, will give my little 3 minute comment and see how it goes. > > See you all tomorrow. > > Thx > RAN > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: > > http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start > > Davisgig mailing list > Davisgig at list.omsoft.com > http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig Doug Walter (home address) dawalter at dcn.org I absolutely adore the unicorns 'n' bunnies utopia implied in the phrase "a drug-free world." Sort of like saying "a dust-free desert," or "a salt-free ocean" or "an adultery-free Republican party." It's like they let an oversheltered child come up with their name. "Partnership for No More Icky Things Like, Ever" Mark Morford 8/12/2009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dawalter at dcn.org Tue Mar 3 20:48:41 2015 From: dawalter at dcn.org (Douglas A. Walter) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 20:48:41 -0800 Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts - Be Careful / Be Strategic In-Reply-To: <34F4B683-A042-4D7B-9201-F1D3E99DA6ED@1st-mile.org> References: <1425353159767.75578@UCDAVIS.EDU> <1425421209983.45930@UCDAVIS.EDU> <34F4B683-A042-4D7B-9201-F1D3E99DA6ED@1st-mile.org> Message-ID: Thanks for putting this site together, and all the work that went into it. Yes, I'd probably phrase some things differently, and appreciate Taylor and Richard's useful thoughts. I just wanted to ask if we really want to play the name of the organization in quite this way: the page says "DavisGig" at the top, and nowhere else. There's no contact information or list signup link. I do really like the clean look, and the "get involved" window that you can open. Is there a DavisGig organizational structure? If so, we should mention that; if not, we should think a little about that, as part of making sure the group has roots. Roots are important, even if making an impact on what's going on is what we need to think about first. I like Richard's last line a lot. We are currently "thinking through" by emails. Thanks again to Fei and everyone else who contributed! On Mar 3, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Richard Lowenberg wrote: > I will not pick this apart, but will note that language is important. > There are a number of statements in this initial text, that I'd be careful of. > As a previous poster noted, do not talk about pricing yet. > > The sentence: "Davis community fiber is a brand new, state of the art, > city-owned telecommunications operation." > Not yet, if at all. > > There are many organizational models for local community or regional networks. > Be careful in using "municipal fiber", as the city owned or partnered option > is but one way to implement a local network. Public-private partnering are ideal, > but may or may not be possible. If the City invests in fiber networking, it should > be an 'open access' initiative, allowing service providers to lease use of the fiber, > to provide competitive services, to the extent that the market will bear. The City, > in this case, should only be a provider of public/civic services, while users can have > choice of commercial providers using the fiber network, as well as WISPs using > the fiber backbone to offer high-bandwidth wireless services. Deployment will > have to be phased, as was done in Kansas City and elsewhere, with determination > of the extent of the network; will it provide FTTP throughout the City? > > Be very careful of unsubstantiated nature of the network and of benefits. > > The more rigorously thought through, the more likely this initiative will be successful. > > Richard > > ----------- > > On Mar 3, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Fei Li wrote: > >> Thanks to everyone who replied. Here's what we've got. Please pick this apart! Is it good enough for now? >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> You're paying too much for slow internet. >> Your internet is slow. It's expensive, it's limited, and it's unreliable. How much of your time is lost to buffering videos on YouTube and Netflix? How many times have your Skype calls dropped unexpectedly? Do you really need the added stress of data caps on your internet? Your options are limited, and your current service providers fine with this. >> We're sick of it. And we're going to fix that with community fiber. >> What is community fiber? >> You might have heard it called municipal fiber, or community broadband. We think of it as a modern infrastructure for a modern city. >> Davis community fiber is a brand new, state of the art, city-owned telecommunications operation. Community fiber would provide neighborhoods, businesses and schools with the internet infrastructure they need to stay competitive in the world. The possibilities are endless when we are no longer bound to obsolete, fragile, and sluggish copper phone and cable lines. >> Much like the copper networks installed 100 years ago, fiber networks will be used for decades to come. With the adoption of fiber optic networks, Davis can remain a leader in science, technology, and quality of life. >> Why is community fiber good for Davis? >> The advantages of community fiber are as numerous as they are outstanding. Here is just a small selection of the benefits that are made possible through community fiber in Davis: >> Truly unlimited, reliable and lightning-fast service at prices that match--or even beat--currently available plans. >> Property values will go up. >> A new revenue stream for the city, cheaper maintenance costs, market competition and even resurfaced roads. Really! >> Your pick from a wide variety of internet, television and phone options from multiple providers, all served from the city network. >> Fast. Wifi. Everywhere. >> Public accountability. Community fiber is made for you. When you have a concern, your voice matters. >> Many of these things are nigh impossible to implement with our aging networks, but community fiber will open the doors to this and so much more. >> How can we bring community fiber to Davis? >> As with all good things, there is still a lot of hard work to be done. We're partnering with Davis Community Network, a citizen-driven, non-profit organization that first brought internet access to Davis in 1993. Several cities across the nation have already brought this dream to life through groups like us. There is only one thing missing: You. With your support we can make sure that Davis remains exceptional. >> You can help. >> Keep in touch. We'll keep you up-to-date with the latest news and show you how to get involved with this community-driven effort. >> >> >> From: davisgig-bounces at list.omsoft.com on behalf of Fei Li >> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 7:26 PM >> To: davisgig at list.omsoft.com >> Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> The website is nearly done. Thanks to everyone who helped out with this effort and other efforts. We did some great work, but we're not done yet and time is not a commodity we have much of! >> >> I'd like to get the site published tomorrow before 5 PM tomorrow. Luckily, it's not *that* tall of an order. >> >> We have some content that needs to be put in. Rob was kind enough to provide some paragraphs to our web team, but I'd like to hear from all of you as well. The sooner, the better! >> >> How would you answer these questions? >> >> 1) What is municipal fiber? >> >> 2) Why is municipal fiber good for Davis? >> >> 3) How can we bring municipal fiber to Davis? >> >> That's it. Doesn't have to be long. Maybe a paragraph or two tops. Try to keep it on the simple side if you want. No need to go into technical detail, nor make promises we may or may not be able to keep. Your answers will be edited and used as content for the front page. If anyone wants to take the lead as a writer in the future, then please let me. For now we're just trying to drum up some support and pave the way for a full-fledged site with fact sheets and numbers later. >> >> Thanks! >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: >> >> http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start >> >> Davisgig mailing list >> Davisgig at list.omsoft.com >> http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Richard Lowenberg, Executive Director > 1st-Mile Institute www.1st-mile.org > P. O. Box 8001, Santa Fe, NM 87504 > 505-603-5200 rl at 1st-mile.org > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: > > http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start > > Davisgig mailing list > Davisgig at list.omsoft.com > http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig =-=-= Doug Walter, home edition dawalter at dcn.org Wag more (bark less) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dawalter at dcn.org Tue Mar 3 23:49:33 2015 From: dawalter at dcn.org (Douglas A. Walter) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 23:49:33 -0800 Subject: [Davisgig] CBC California Broadband Cooperative | Digital 395 Middle Mile Project Message-ID: Hi folks. After a successful conclusion to the agenda item at the Council, I thought I'd pass along one of the items mentioned by Lucas Frerichs. Obviously, Digital 395 is covering a lot of rural ground, while DavisGig is mostly concerned with a suburb. It's still interesting to see how they've structured their project partnership: > As a public-private partnership among local and state agencies, organized labor and for-profit companies, [a cooperative] is the best organizational form that ensures representation by a wide range of interests in the Eastern Sierra. Praxis Associates, one of the key partners, has been designing and constructing fiber networks, as well as providing advanced network services to businesses and Indian reservations, throughout California for 5 years. Another key partner, Inyo Networks, is an existing telecommunications provider and will be responsible for management and business operations of the network. > http://digital395.com/395project.html Doug Walter ? dawalter at dcn.org ? home We have learned to fly the air like birds and swim the sea like fish, but we have not learned the simple art of living together as brothers. ? Rev. Dr. M.L. King http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1964/king-lecture.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ls at whitewavedigital.com Wed Mar 4 00:13:45 2015 From: ls at whitewavedigital.com (Larry Dieterich) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 00:13:45 -0800 Subject: [Davisgig] Davis City Council Meeting Message-ID: <7BD8F9BB-C1AA-4C7A-A42B-8BD308A59CE1@whitewavedigital.com> The meeting went late and the broadband item was next to last. Magellan Partners and LAFCO presented a report that articulated the problem of slow Internet and recommended community fiber as the solution. The Council unanimously adopted a motion to direct staff to pursue the recommendations of the report. From my perspective, things went as good as we (gigabit proponents) could have hoped. From steve at dcn.org Wed Mar 4 09:58:44 2015 From: steve at dcn.org (Steve McMahon) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 09:58:44 -0800 Subject: [Davisgig] Council Meeting video archive Message-ID: Hi gigafolks, FYI, last night's "Draft Yolo Broadband Strategic Plan" item is available in the city's video archive at http://davis.granicus.com/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=2 I tried the MP4 version first and found it basically useless. On the "Video" version, which uses flash, the agenda item starts at 4:31:35, which was somewhere around 11:30pm. Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From omrob at omsoft.com Wed Mar 4 10:16:12 2015 From: omrob at omsoft.com (Robert Nickerson) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2015 10:16:12 -0800 Subject: [Davisgig] CBC California Broadband Cooperative | Digital 395 Middle Mile Project In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54F74BEC.6090400@omsoft.com> Hi Yeah I know the guy that put that in Michael Ort, Praxxis Communications. He got a big old grant to put that in, and it loooks like its totally successful and well done. There is good fiber all the way from Reno down to Barstow CA. He told a good story about how it just got lit up in 12.2014. And a local ISP was able to give everyone a free upgrade from 1 Mbps to 15 Mbps and they got a flood of support calls wondering what was going on, becasue it was too fast. RAN On 3/3/2015 11:49 PM, Douglas A. Walter wrote: > Hi folks. After a successful conclusion to the agenda item at the > Council, I thought I'd pass along one of the items mentioned by Lucas > Frerichs. Obviously, Digital 395 is covering a lot of rural ground, > while DavisGig is mostly concerned with a suburb. It's still > interesting to see how they've structured their project partnership: >> >> As a public-private partnership among local and state agencies, >> organized labor and for-profit companies, [a cooperative] is the best >> organizational form that ensures representation by a wide range of >> interests in the Eastern Sierra. Praxis Associates, one of the key >> partners, has been designing and constructing fiber networks, as well >> as providing advanced network services to businesses and Indian >> reservations, throughout California for 5 years. Another key partner, >> Inyo Networks, is an existing telecommunications provider and will be >> responsible for management and business operations of the network. >> > > http://digital395.com/395project.html > > Doug Walter ? dawalter at dcn.org ? home > We have learned to fly the air like birds and swim the sea like fish, > but we have not learned the simple art of living together as > brothers. ? Rev. Dr. M.L. King > http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1964/king-lecture.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: > > http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start > > Davisgig mailing list > Davisgig at list.omsoft.com > http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig -- Rob Nickerson CEO Om Networks UCD Class of 96 C: 530-848-3865 If we have helped you in a positive way, please give us a good recommendation at daviswiki.org , and/or yelp.com . 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Re: CBC California Broadband Cooperative | Digital 395 Middle > Mile Project (Robert Nickerson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 23:49:33 -0800 > From: "Douglas A. Walter" > To: davisgig at list.omsoft.com > Subject: [Davisgig] CBC California Broadband Cooperative | Digital 395 > Middle Mile Project > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hi folks. After a successful conclusion to the agenda item at the Council, > I thought I'd pass along one of the items mentioned by Lucas Frerichs. > Obviously, Digital 395 is covering a lot of rural ground, while DavisGig is > mostly concerned with a suburb. It's still interesting to see how they've > structured their project partnership: > > As a public-private partnership among local and state agencies, > organized labor and for-profit companies, [a cooperative] is the best > organizational form that ensures representation by a wide range of > interests in the Eastern Sierra. Praxis Associates, one of the key > partners, has been designing and constructing fiber networks, as well as > providing advanced network services to businesses and Indian reservations, > throughout California for 5 years. Another key partner, Inyo Networks, is > an existing telecommunications provider and will be responsible for > management and business operations of the network. > > > > > http://digital395.com/395project.html > > Doug Walter ? dawalter at dcn.org ? home > We have learned to fly the air like birds and swim the sea like fish, but > we have not learned the simple art of living together as brothers. ? Rev. > Dr. M.L. 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On the > "Video" version, which uses flash, the agenda item starts at 4:31:35, > which was somewhere around 11:30pm. > > Steve > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://list.omsoft.com/pipermail/davisgig/attachments/20150304/dd5cefd8/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2015 10:16:12 -0800 > From: Robert Nickerson > To: davisgig at list.omsoft.com > Subject: Re: [Davisgig] CBC California Broadband Cooperative | Digital > 395 Middle Mile Project > Message-ID: <54F74BEC.6090400 at omsoft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" > > Hi > > Yeah I know the guy that put that in Michael Ort, Praxxis Communications. > > He got a big old grant to put that in, and it loooks like its totally > successful and well done. > > There is good fiber all the way from Reno down to Barstow CA. > > He told a good story about how it just got lit up in 12.2014. > > And a local ISP was able to give everyone a free upgrade from 1 Mbps to > 15 Mbps and they got a flood of support calls wondering what was going > on, becasue it was too fast. > > RAN > > > > On 3/3/2015 11:49 PM, Douglas A. Walter wrote: > > Hi folks. After a successful conclusion to the agenda item at the > > Council, I thought I'd pass along one of the items mentioned by Lucas > > Frerichs. Obviously, Digital 395 is covering a lot of rural ground, > > while DavisGig is mostly concerned with a suburb. It's still > > interesting to see how they've structured their project partnership: > >> > >> As a public-private partnership among local and state agencies, > >> organized labor and for-profit companies, [a cooperative] is the best > >> organizational form that ensures representation by a wide range of > >> interests in the Eastern Sierra. Praxis Associates, one of the key > >> partners, has been designing and constructing fiber networks, as well > >> as providing advanced network services to businesses and Indian > >> reservations, throughout California for 5 years. Another key partner, > >> Inyo Networks, is an existing telecommunications provider and will be > >> responsible for management and business operations of the network. > >> > > > > http://digital395.com/395project.html > > > > Doug Walter ? dawalter at dcn.org ? home > > We have learned to fly the air like birds and swim the sea like fish, > > but we have not learned the simple art of living together as > > brothers. ? Rev. Dr. M.L. 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URL: From gary_darling at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 4 15:18:17 2015 From: gary_darling at sbcglobal.net (Gary Darling) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 15:18:17 -0800 Subject: [Davisgig] Davis City Council Meeting In-Reply-To: <7BD8F9BB-C1AA-4C7A-A42B-8BD308A59CE1@whitewavedigital.com> References: <7BD8F9BB-C1AA-4C7A-A42B-8BD308A59CE1@whitewavedigital.com> Message-ID: A few thoughts? 1. We need to follow up with city staff. We could just invite whoever was tasked to follow up to Sudwerk to speak with us. 2. I would not assume that ATT and Comcast were enemies in our language or actions. e.g we can say that we want ?even faster and more reliable network service?. 3. We are creating infrastructure that will create an even playing field for all, we are facilitating competition. 4. We are encouraging innovation with this initiative, Davis is a research community - innovation drives our economy and is a part of our identity ?Gary From ls at whitewavedigital.com Wed Mar 4 15:39:07 2015 From: ls at whitewavedigital.com (Larry Dieterich) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 15:39:07 -0800 Subject: [Davisgig] Davis City Council Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <7BD8F9BB-C1AA-4C7A-A42B-8BD308A59CE1@whitewavedigital.com> Message-ID: <37095F1C-07BD-4F7B-8617-D8B3E127A4E9@whitewavedigital.com> On Mar 4, 2015, at 3:18 PM, Gary Darling wrote: > > A few thoughts? > > 1. We need to follow up with city staff. We could just invite whoever was tasked to follow up to Sudwerk to speak with us. > 2. I would not assume that ATT and Comcast were enemies in our language or actions. e.g we can say that we want ?even faster and more reliable network service?. > 3. We are creating infrastructure that will create an even playing field for all, we are facilitating competition. > 4. We are encouraging innovation with this initiative, Davis is a research community - innovation drives our economy and is a part of our identity > I was at a luncheon today where I spoke briefly today with Robb Davis (city mayor pro tem) about the broadband resolution at City Council meeting last night. I was keen to raise the issue of customer service/tech support to the needs addressed by any initiative. I think this is something with which everyone will resonate; most customers of ATT or Comcast have experienced poor quality phone support. Council member Davis understood the issue and told me that the next step in this process will likely be the formation of a task force to perform analysis and make recommendations. He indicated that the task force would be a good place to get these sorts of issues included. He seemed to think that we have enough tech expertise in Davis that we shouldn't need Magellan Partners to do much. I plan to come to the meeting at Sudwerk tonight. - Larry From steve at dcn.org Wed Mar 4 16:09:26 2015 From: steve at dcn.org (Steve McMahon) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 16:09:26 -0800 Subject: [Davisgig] Meeting tonight @ 6pmn @ Sudwerk In-Reply-To: <54F7794B.5090100@omsoft.com> References: <54F7794B.5090100@omsoft.com> Message-ID: Getting home at midnight last night used up my spousal allocation for evening volunteer activities for this week ;) So, I'll be missing tonight. I spoke briefly with Rob White and Sarah Worley after last night's meeting, and both expressed considerable interest in getting in touch with and working with both DCN and Davisgig. Rob W and Sarah are the Chief and Deputy Innovation Officers. It would probably be a fine idea to have a gathering with one or both. Lunch is often a good time/place for meetings of that kind. Both council and staff seemed genuinely enthused last night. I suspect that what me may most need to be on guard for is a move to prematurely limit the scope to something smaller, like just downtown. We need to be ready to answer financial questions in a way that will reassure everyone. Rob N's idea of growing by neighborhoods might be one answer. We need to figure out if we want a task force -- or something like it -- or if we trust staff to be in the driver's seat. Also, we need to find some contacts among the folks working on electric power options. There's a natural overlap of interest, and the power folks probably know a lot about penciling out infrastructure projects. Has anyone noticed that we have a lot of Robs involved in this? 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In Lafayette , home to LUS Fiber, City-Parish President Joey Durel took time to write a supportive letter to Wilson's Mayor Bruce Rose.* *We reproduce the text of that letter below. As Durel points out, the two communities have strong similarities and the victory in Wilson has also reached Lafayette. Durel notes that a community's decision to better its connectivity should always be a local choice, that partisanship is not a natural part of the equation, and he encouraged Rose to "stay strong."* Dear Mayor Rose: ... Read the Letter from Joey Durel Here ... Rural Electric Co-Mo Coop Goes Gig - Community Broadband Bits Episode 140 Tue, March 03, 2015 | Posted by christopher As high quality Internet has become more essential for business and quality of life, those who realized that the existing telecom providers had no intention to invest in better connections in their rural Missouri communities began to ask their electric cooperative - Co-Mo - to step up and do it. This week, we talk with Randy Klindt, General Manager of Co-Mo Connect, which is building a gigabit fiber network out to its members despite having not been chosen to receive any stimulus funds. We discuss how they have structured the network, why they felt compelled to get into the business, and some of the results from their approach. ... Listen to the Show Here ... Missouri Senate Committee Hears Anti-Muni Bill; Private Companies and Groups Ask For No Vote Wed, March 04, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez As the Senate version of Missouri's latest anti-muni bill, SB 266 [PDF] , moved forward recently, a group of private sector companies and interested organizations appealed to state lawmakers [PDF] urging them to stop it in its tracks. In January we reported on HB 437 , introduced by House Member Rocky Miller. Its Senate companion, which establishes an identical slash and burn strategy to discourage municipal broadband investment, appears to be gathering interest. The Senate Jobs, Economic Development and Local Government Committee heard the bill on February 18th but chose not to vote on it, reports the Columbia Tribune . Members of the committee received a copy of the correspondence. ... More Coverage Here ... Co-Mo Cooperative: Bringing Some of the Fastest Speeds in the Nation to Rural Missouri Sun, March 08, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez Co-Mo Cooperative and the Co-Mo Connect Board of Directors recently voted to proceed with the final phases of its gigabit FTTH project. The decision assures the plan to bring to triple-play to all Co-Mo members by the end of 2016. We checked in on Co-Mo about a year ago , when the cooperative announced it would increase speeds without increasing prices for both residential and business members. Residential fiber Internet service ranges from $39.95 per month for 5 Mbps to $99.95 per month for gigabit service; all speeds are symmetrical . Triple-play service extends beyond the electric service territory. During the first phase of the project, the city of California (pop. 4,200) opened up city poles for Co-Mo in space that was previously used by a cable company that no longer operated in the area. The project then expanded to Tipton (pop. 3,200) and Versailles (pop. 2,500). ... More in This Followup to Our Podcast with Klindt Here ... Blackburn and Tillis Introduce Bill Aimed to Undo FCC Decision to Restore Local Authority Mon, March 02, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez Last week, the FCC made history when it chose to restore local telecommunications authority by nullifying state barriers in Tennessee and North Carolina. Waiting in the wings were Rep. Marsha Blackburn and Senator Thom Tillis from Tennessee and North Carolina respectively, with their legislation to cut off the FCC at the knees. [A PDF of the draft legislation is available online.] Readers will remember Blackburn from last year . She introduced a similar measure in the form of an amendment to an appropriations bill. Blackburn has repeatedly attributed her attempts to block local authority to her mission to preserve the rights of states. ... Not a Surprise - Our Coverage Here ... Remembering David Carr, and His Writing on Monopoly Power Wed, March 04, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez Stacy Mitchell , Co-Director of ILSR and Director of the Community-Scaled Economy Initiative, took a few moments to look back over the work of David Carr. Carr's work included investigating monopolies in the telecommunications space. Stacy's story, re-posted here, originally ran on ILSR.org . What will we do without David Carr, the brilliant media columnist at the New York Times who died last week ? At ILSR, we will especially miss his writing on monopoly power, Amazon, and the book business. Below we?ve excerpted and linked to a few of his best recent pieces on those subjects. In Modern Media Realm, Big Mergers Are a Bulwark Against Rivals ? July 16, 2014 Comcast?s bold strategy of acquisition kicked off a wave of defensive consolidation, fueled by a combination of fear and abundant capital in the media realm. ... Lots of Great Thoughts from an Excellent Thinker Here ... Community Broadband Media Roundup - March 6, 2015 Sun, March 08, 2015 | Posted by rebecca Outlets are continuing to pick up on the fact that the FCC's Community Broadband decision was a big one for the future of the Internet. *Community Broadband* The Most Important Decision the FCC Made Last Week Wasn't on Net Neutrality ... By David Dayen, The New Republic ?Telecoms have reacted to this wave of community broadband in ways you would expect from politically powerful, deep-pocketed corporations. First they sued the pants off any municipality trying to build their own network. Then they used their clout in state legislatures to restrict their reach. In Tennessee, only municipal electric companies can provide broadband, and only in the markets they serve. 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URL: From szsherm at yahoo.com Mon Mar 16 11:05:40 2015 From: szsherm at yahoo.com (Shneor Sherman) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 11:05:40 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] Fiber Optic Cable Installation Costs Message-ID: <1426529140.52496.YahooMailBasic@web161702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Here are some per-mile costs: http://www.itscosts.its.dot.gov/its/benecost.nsf/DisplayRUCByUnitCostElementUnadjusted?ReadForm&UnitCostElement=Fiber+Optic+Cable+Installation+&Subsystem=Roadside+Telecommunications+ Also http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-rule-of-thumb-in-estimating-the-cost-to-build-out-a-dark-fiber-run (scroll down to read replies) Real life experience http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/09/17/how-chattanooga-beat-google-fiber-by-half-a-decade/ It looks like the max is probably $200K per mile, so for Davis, $32 million. But costs might be much lower. Shneor Sherman From christopher at newrules.org Tue Mar 17 08:43:15 2015 From: christopher at newrules.org (Christopher Mitchell) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 10:43:15 -0500 Subject: [Davisgig] Recently in Community Networks... Week of 3/17 Message-ID: *Recent Stories from MuniNetworks.org - a project of the Institute for Local Self-Reliance. Instructions for unsubscribing appear at bottom. Send feedback. Forward Widely.* Tennessee Farm Bureau Association Backs State Legislation to End Barriers Mon, March 09, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez The Tennessee Farm Bureau Association recently put its support behind state legislation from Senator Janice Bowling and Rep. Kevin Brooks reports the Times Free Press . The Bureau told the Times Free Press: "Our members are hungry to have broadband," said Rhedonna Rose, executive vice president of the 600,000-member Tennessee Farm Bureau Federation. "We represent a lot of Tennesseans in very rural areas of the state who are frustrated that they don't have high-speed Internet." SB 1134 and its companion HB 1303 are brief and direct, allowing municipal power distributors the right to extend Internet access beyond current geographic boundaries established by state barriers. Bradley County, one of EPB's neighbors, would like to have EPB expand service to them but state laws, backed by large corporate incumbents not interested in serving Bradley, forbid expansion. ... Read Our Full Story Here ... Reaction to the FCC Decisions, Dissent, and Next Steps - Community Broadband Bits Episode 141 Tue, March 10, 2015 | Posted by christopher After the FCC decisions to remove barriers to community networks and to reclassify Internet access as a Title II service to enforce network neutrality rules, Lisa and I spend some time discussing the decision and reactions to it. We also discuss my presentation at Freedom to Connect , where I offer some thoughts on what communities can do in the long term to ensure we end scarcity and the corporate monopoly model of Internet access. Though we will continue to fight against barriers to local choice and work to ensure every community has the authority to choose the model that best fits it, we plan to spend more time examining how Internet access can be built as infrastructure rather than as for a specific service from a single provider. ... Listen to the Show Here ... Read the transcript from this show here ... Dakota County Considering Expanding to Open Access for Businesses, Residents Mon, March 09, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez In a recent meeting of the Dakota County Administration, Finance and Policy Committee, Dakota County's Network Collaboration Engineer David Asp provided an update to Commissioners on the status of their broadband plan. Dakota has saved millions of dollars with their network through collaborative efforts, innovative dig-once approaches, and specially deveoped software. As part of its long term strategy, the county is now considering ways to offer connectivity to local businesses and residents via open access infrastructure. Blandin on Broadband's Ann Treacy attended the February 3rd meeting and, thanks to Asp, posted the PPT from his presentation. ... See the Powerpoint Here ... iTV-3 Increases Speeds for Free on UC2B Network Tue, March 10, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez As the FCC works to update current policy to encourage ubiquitous Internet access and adoption, community networks are also taking an active role. Earlier this month, customers of iTV-3 received a boost in speed with no increase in price. iTV-3, a community minded local provider, chose to make the change in order to ensure all its customers were well within the new broadband speeds asredefined by the FCC in January 2015 . Early last year, UC2B and iTV-3 announced their new partnership . The company, which has provided services to residents and businesses to Illinois communities since 2009, is leasing UC2B infrastructure and equipment and will own any infrastructure it builds as part of expansion. ... More Coverage and Speed Increase Information Here ... Dark Fiber Option Coming to Arlington Businesses Wed, March 11, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez Arlington is finally ready to open up its network to local businesses seeking better connectivity, reports local news WJLA . The county board recently voted unanimously to allow providers to lease dark fiber from approximately 10 miles of the 59-mile network. They hope to spur economic development and entice ISPs to provide better connectivity for residents via the network. "The dark fiber, in the most simplest terms, is like a super highway. You're the only car on that highway and you can go as fast as the vehicle you've chosen can go," explained Jack Belcher, chief information officer of Arlington County. We first reported on Arlington's network in 2012, after the community had dedicated about 2 years to the project. They took advantage of investments in the local Intelligent Transportation System (ITS) upgrades, improvements to the emergency communications system, and an electric power upgrade by a local electrical provider to deploy a next generation network. ... See Local Coverage (Video) Here ... International Media Covering NextLight Strides in Longmont Wed, March 11, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez Longmont's NextLight is well known in the municipal networks space; now other media markets are starting to notice the most recent network in the Centennial State. CCTV America profiled the network recently, highlighting its importance to local businesses. CCTV spoke with a local tech business owner who had recently connected to the municipal network: Jon Rice is a web developer for whom a reliable computer connection is critical. ?Our entire business is basically predicated on having fast, easy access to the Internet,? Rice said. Like many other modern households, Rice describes how their home hosts multiple devices.NextLight's $50 per month gigabit tier is a necessity for both his residential and business needs. ... Read the Rest of the Story and See Video Here ... Monica Webb Talks WiredWest on The Take Away Thu, March 12, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez Monica Webb, long-time spokesperson and current chairman for Massachusetts' WiredWest , recently spoke with John Hockenberry on The Take Away . Monica briefly described why the coalition of local communities chose to take control of their own connectivity with a regional municipal effort. Fittingly enough, Monica describes how she had to drive 20 minutes in order to access a connection that was reliable enough for the interview. As we reported in January , WiredWest is currently working with specific communities to determine detailed cost estimates so they can assess their ability to deploy infrastructure with as much information as possible. As you will hear in the interview, funding is one of the primary hurdles facing smaller rural communities in western Massachusetts. ... Listen to the Segment Here ... Yolo County, California Ready for Better Broadband Fri, March 13, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez The Yolo County Board of Supervisors in California voted unanimously recently to accept consultants' recommendations to take steps improve broadband in the county. Some of those recommendations included investing in infrastructure to improve both urban and rural areas in the northern county. The Davis Enterprise reported on the meeting from February 24th: With its diverse mix of rural and urban areas, the county has communities where little or no broadband service is available. And even in urban areas with greater access to service and providers, many residents complain of slow and unreliable connections, according to the Yolo Broadband Strategic Plan, which also provided direction for county officials on closing the divide in the coming years. ... More on Yolo's Situation Here ... Community Broadband Media Roundup - March 14 Mon, March 16, 2015 | Posted by rebecca Whether You?re Red or Blue, You Should Love the FCC?s Internet Plan : This Tea Party guy gets it. Why don?t DC Republicans? by Susan Crawford, BackChannel He said (paraphrasing), ?I want my freedom and I can?t stand the idea of government messing with our lives, and that?s why I like the Tea Party. But I also can?t stand that there?s a company that can tell me what kind of Internet access I can get ? I can?t run my business from my home because I can?t buy the connection I need here.? *FCC Ruling* FCC order allows EPB to expand Gig service to outlying areas Dave Flessner, Times Free Press "We're glad that a growing number of state lawmakers are supporting proposed legislation that would remove the territorial restrictions that currently prevent municipal utilities from extending fiber services to neighboring areas," he said. "This Tennessee-driven approach is the best near-term option for serving more of the people across our state who are currently underserved or poorly served with broadband connectivity." ... See the Full Community Broadband Media Roundup Here ... -- You can always find our most recent stories and other resources at http://MuniNetworks.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Community Networks Weekly Updates" group. 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I've talked to LUGOD about the project on Monday, about 8 folks, and so, lets all spread the word to other groups and organizations we work with to help us support the concept. I'll be working up a 20-30 minute talk that I can bring wherever it was wanted. Thanks to LUGOD for letting me try it out. 2) Todd K registered a twitter handle davis_gig and has a spreadsheet of tweets "ready to go", if anyone wants to review those and add tweets that will go out to the public, please be in touch with me. I'm hopeful that we will have twitter followers at some point as the word gets out. I'm thinking I'll register another one, that could be used internally just for our group, as another channel for updating one another on developments as they happen. 3) So we should raise funds to help make this happen. I think specifically anything we can do to do a big outreach effort would involve money. Also any work helping City Staff develop the feasibility study the Council will be be asking for would also require resources. I have brought this up to the Davis Community Network board as well, since we are all working on this together, I'm sure DCN, a 501c3, could help be the fiscal agent for Davis Gig. We are putting together a subcommittee of the DCN board to help develop a funding strategy. If anyone is interested in helping that on this list, please drop me a line. I'm thinking we reach out to the larger businesses and groups like Tech Davis, and Davis Roots. Around the corner, 1) Meeting with City Staff - 3/25 2) Austin Fiber Conference - NEED more Funds - collected about $300 so far in commits, anything else would be appreciated. 3) Time to call on UCD. - I was going to start with the dudes, I know at Network Operations. It would be geek to geek, and that way, we talk to the folks most accessible with the idea. Thoughts? Forward -- Rob Nickerson CEO Om Networks UCD Class of 96 C: 530-848-3865 If we have helped you in a positive way, please give us a good recommendation at daviswiki.org , and/or yelp.com . Please like us on Facebook . and put us in your circle at Google+ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gonzalo.p.cabrera at intel.com Fri Mar 20 16:54:36 2015 From: gonzalo.p.cabrera at intel.com (Cabrera, Gonzalo P) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 23:54:36 +0000 Subject: [Davisgig] New Davis GIG Website content is Live + Twiter + Fundraising In-Reply-To: <550B7332.9080703@omsoft.com> References: <550B7332.9080703@omsoft.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the message Rob, much appreciated ? Hopefully Massimo and his manager could point us all to newer fiber technologies that could be of interest to the City and its users. You guys have a nice weekend! Cheers! From: "rob at omsoft.com" > Date: Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 6:09 PM To: "davisgig at list.omsoft.com" > Subject: [Davisgig] New Davis GIG Website content is Live + Twiter + Fundraising Hi All 1) So a big thanks to the web team, plus the content editing group, and as yet to be named marketing folks, that all contributed to a re-write of the Davis Gig home page. It gives a good description of what we are trying to do, without drowning in detail, and it provides a mechanism for people to help by joining the list, as well as register their support for the project. I think its good at this point for us to go public with it. I've talked to LUGOD about the project on Monday, about 8 folks, and so, lets all spread the word to other groups and organizations we work with to help us support the concept. I'll be working up a 20-30 minute talk that I can bring wherever it was wanted. Thanks to LUGOD for letting me try it out. 2) Todd K registered a twitter handle davis_gig and has a spreadsheet of tweets "ready to go", if anyone wants to review those and add tweets that will go out to the public, please be in touch with me. I'm hopeful that we will have twitter followers at some point as the word gets out. I'm thinking I'll register another one, that could be used internally just for our group, as another channel for updating one another on developments as they happen. 3) So we should raise funds to help make this happen. I think specifically anything we can do to do a big outreach effort would involve money. Also any work helping City Staff develop the feasibility study the Council will be be asking for would also require resources. I have brought this up to the Davis Community Network board as well, since we are all working on this together, I'm sure DCN, a 501c3, could help be the fiscal agent for Davis Gig. We are putting together a subcommittee of the DCN board to help develop a funding strategy. If anyone is interested in helping that on this list, please drop me a line. I'm thinking we reach out to the larger businesses and groups like Tech Davis, and Davis Roots. Around the corner, 1) Meeting with City Staff - 3/25 2) Austin Fiber Conference - NEED more Funds - collected about $300 so far in commits, anything else would be appreciated. 3) Time to call on UCD. - I was going to start with the dudes, I know at Network Operations. It would be geek to geek, and that way, we talk to the folks most accessible with the idea. Thoughts? Forward -- Rob Nickerson CEO Om Networks UCD Class of 96 C: 530-848-3865 If we have helped you in a positive way, please give us a good recommendation at daviswiki.org, and/or yelp.com. Please like us on Facebook. and put us in your circle at Google+ From gonzalo.p.cabrera at intel.com Fri Mar 20 16:59:25 2015 From: gonzalo.p.cabrera at intel.com (Cabrera, Gonzalo P) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 23:59:25 +0000 Subject: [Davisgig] New Davis GIG Website content is Live + Twiter + Fundraising In-Reply-To: References: <550B7332.9080703@omsoft.com> Message-ID: Apologies on the spamming - My message to Rob was for a different e-mail thread :) On 3/20/15, 4:54 PM, "Cabrera, Gonzalo P" wrote: >Thanks for the message Rob, much appreciated ? Hopefully Massimo and his >manager could point us all to newer fiber technologies that could be of >interest to the City and its users. >You guys have a nice weekend! >Cheers! > >From: "rob at omsoft.com" >> >Date: Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 6:09 PM >To: "davisgig at list.omsoft.com" >> >Subject: [Davisgig] New Davis GIG Website content is Live + Twiter + >Fundraising > >Hi All > >1) So a big thanks to the web team, plus the content editing group, and >as yet to be named marketing folks, that all contributed to a re-write of >the Davis Gig home page. It gives a good description of what we are >trying to do, without drowning in detail, and it provides a mechanism for >people to help by joining the list, as well as register their support for >the project. I think its good at this point for us to go public with it. >I've talked to LUGOD about the project on Monday, about 8 folks, and so, > lets all spread the word to other groups and organizations we work with >to help us support the concept. I'll be working up a 20-30 minute talk >that I can bring wherever it was wanted. Thanks to LUGOD for letting me >try it out. > >2) Todd K registered a twitter handle davis_gig and has a spreadsheet of >tweets "ready to go", if anyone wants to review those and add tweets >that will go out to the public, please be in touch with me. I'm hopeful >that we will have twitter followers at some point as the word gets out. >I'm thinking I'll register another one, that could be used internally >just for our group, as another channel for updating one another on >developments as they happen. > >3) So we should raise funds to help make this happen. I think >specifically anything we can do to do a big outreach effort would >involve money. Also any work helping City Staff develop the feasibility >study the Council will be be asking for would also require resources. I >have brought this up to the Davis Community Network board as well, since >we are all working on this together, I'm sure DCN, a 501c3, could help >be the fiscal agent for Davis Gig. We are putting together a >subcommittee of the DCN board to help develop a funding strategy. If >anyone is interested in helping that on this list, please drop me a line. > I'm thinking we reach out to the larger businesses and groups like Tech >Davis, and Davis Roots. > > >Around the corner, > >1) Meeting with City Staff - 3/25 >2) Austin Fiber Conference - NEED more Funds - collected about $300 so >far in commits, anything else would be appreciated. >3) Time to call on UCD. - I was going to start with the dudes, I know at >Network Operations. It would be geek to geek, and that way, >we talk to the folks most accessible with the idea. Thoughts? > > > > >Forward >-- >Rob Nickerson > >CEO >Om Networks >UCD Class of 96 >C: 530-848-3865 > >If we have helped you in a positive way, please give us a good >recommendation at daviswiki.org, and/or >yelp.com. >Please like us on >Facebook. and put us in >your circle at Google+ >_______________________________________________ > >Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: > >http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start > >Davisgig mailing list >Davisgig at list.omsoft.com >http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig From tim at active4.me Sat Mar 21 09:03:33 2015 From: tim at active4.me (Tim Starback) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:03:33 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] Innovation Center Listening Tour Message-ID: <7C71726E-2B41-464C-AA14-6D1DA694D285@active4.me> Hello All, In Fridays Enterprise there is an article about the council listening tour for the Innovation Centers. It?s listed as a ?casual, drop-in town hall meeting? which is perfect for those of us who would rather not speak at city council meetings. My personal feeling on this is that I don?t oppose the Innovation Centers, but I think community fiber should come first. These Centers need a public vote, if the city feels like there is enough opposition to them, this might open some doors and get us fast-tracked. If possible please drop by one of these events and let them know you want FTTH -------- Tuesday March 31 7-8pm Activity Room at the Davis Senior Center, 646 a St. Saturday April 11 11am to noon at the New Harmony apartment complex 3030 Cowell Blvd Wednesday May 27 6:30 to 7:30pm Emerson Junior High, 2121 Calaveras Ave http://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/council-starts-listening-tour-for-innovation-centers/ Thanks, Tim --------------------------- www.active4.me PO BOX 73311 Davis CA 95617 530-402-8250 Ext. 101 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christopher at newrules.org Tue Mar 24 09:38:32 2015 From: christopher at newrules.org (Christopher Mitchell) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 11:38:32 -0500 Subject: [Davisgig] Recently in Community Networks... Week of 3/24 Message-ID: *Recent Stories from MuniNetworks.org - a project of the Institute for Local Self-Reliance. Instructions for unsubscribing appear at bottom. Send feedback. Forward Widely.* FCC Opinion and Order Striking Down Local Authority Limits in TN and NC: Highlights Mon, March 16, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez The FCC has found that it has the authority to remove aspects of Tennessee and North Carolina law that limit local authority to build or expand Internet networks. In short, states seem to retain the authority to restrict municipalities from offering service at all. However, if states allow local governments to offer services, then the FCC has the power to determine whether any limitations on how they do it are a barrier to the deployment of advanced telecommunications services per its authority in section 706 of the Telecommunications Act. The FCC has removed a restriction in Tennessee law that prevented municipalities with fiber networks from expanding to serve their neighbors, per a petition from Chattanooga. In North Carolina, the FCC has removed multiple aspects of a 2011 law, HB 129, that effectively outlawed municipal networks by presenting local governments with a thicket of red tape, including territorial restrictions on existing networks. The city of Wilson had petitioned the FCC for this intervention. Listen to our podcast with Jim Baller about this decision. ... We Pulled out Key Paragraphs from the Decision Here ... Missouri Anti-Muni Bill Advances Out of Committee Thu, March 19, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez The Missouri Senate Jobs, Economic Development and Local Government Committee voted to pass anti-local choice SB 266 on March 18th. This bill, sponsored by Senator Kurt Schaefer, will increase barriers for municipal networks and damage the possibility of highly-effective partnerships with the private sector. *Call your Missouri State Senator and let them know you consider this bill anti-competitive, hostile to local interests, and that you will remember their vote at the next election.* The bill was discussed in the same committee earlier this month when a number of private tech firms, industry associations, and utilities groups wrote to members to express their concern with the bill. A dozen entities, including Google, NATOA , and APPA wrote that the provisions in the bill would prevent public private partnerships that improve connectivity at the local level. [See a PDF of the letter here .] ... Don't Let Missouri Go Backward! ... Mount Vernon Mayor: Local Authority Has Been Good For Our City Mon, March 16, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez As the time approached for FCC Commissioners to choose to allow Wilson and Chattanooga to serve surrounding communities, leaders from municipalities with publicly owned networks shared their experiences. Jill Boudreau, Mayor of Mount Vernon, Washington, published her community's experience with their muni in GoSkagit.com. As in the recent testimonial from Opelika Mayor Gary Fuller , Mayor Boudreau described how Mount Vernon's network has created a quality of life where high-tech has enhanced local medicine, encouraged new businesses, and created and environment rich with competition. ... Get the Rest of the Story Here ... Bozeman's Public-Private Approach In-Depth - Community Broadband Bits Podcast 142 Tue, March 17, 2015 | Posted by christopher In Montana, local businesses and the city of Bozeman have been working on a public-private partnership approach to expanding Internet access that is likely to involve the city building an open access fiber network. We discuss their approach this week with Brit Fontenot, Economic Development Director for the city of Bozeman; David Fine, Bozeman Economic Development Specialist; and the President of Hoplite Industries, Anthony Cochenour. Bozeman has long been known as a city with opportunities for outdoor activities but it also has a significant tech presence though like nearly every other community in the United States, many recognize the need for more investment in better options for connectivity. A group of citizens, local businesses, and city staff have been examining their options, how they might finance it, and how to encourage the existing providers to work with them in improving Internet access. ... Listen to the Show Here ... Read the transcript from this episode here ... Center for Public Integrity and Reveal Radio Get Into the Trenches of Local Choice Wed, March 18, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez The Center for Public Integrity has followed the local choice debate closely. Their team has travelled to Tennessee and North Carolina to talk to lawmakers, visited communities seeking high-speed networks, and dug deep into the source of influential campaign funds. Allan Holmes and his team have assembled a collection of articles and audio that offers the right amount of history, backstory, and anecdotes to properly understand these issues. Holmes published an article last August that took a deep look at telecommunications laws at the state level. Along the way, he spoke with State Senator Janice Bowling from Tullahoma . MuniNetworks.org readers know that the community is known for LightTUBe , the fiber network offering an oasis of high quality connectivity in an otherwise broadband desert. At the time, the Wilson and Chattanooga petitions were still fresh but Tennessee communities had long dealt with the problem of poor connectivity from incumbents. ... This is Such a Great, In-Depth Effort - More Here ... The Other Half of Network Neutrality - Content Neutrality Fri, March 20, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez *We are pleased to bring you a guest post from Levi C. Maaia, president of Full Channel Labs and a graduate research fellow at the Center for Education Research on Literacies, Learning & Inquiry in Networking Communities (LINC) at the University of California, Santa Barbara. Levi is a strong advocate for local, family owned businesses and an open Internet without government or corporate gatekeepers.* *The Other Half of Net Neutrality Regulation* The Internet was originally founded on principles of public service and education. In the past two decades, tremendous commercial potential has also been realized and the Internet is now the engine behind our new global economy. This potential, however, is predicated on the network?s original open and neutral methods of communication. ... This is Very Important for Small ISPs! ... Waverly: The Next Gigabit Community in Iowa Tue, March 17, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez Remember Waverly, Iowa? We introduced you to the town of 10,000 back in 2013 when they revived the community choice to develop a telecommunications utility. Recently in February, the Waverly Light and Power Board of Trustees approved a long awaited gigabit project reported American Public Power . According to a WLP press release , the $12 million project will be financed with revenue bonds which have already been secured. As we note in our Financing Municipal Networks fact sheet [PDF] , this is one of the most common ways of funding deployment. Revenue from subscribers pays the private investors that buy the bonds used to finance the deployment. ... More Coverage from Waverly Here ... Community Broadband Media Roundup - March 20 Sun, March 22, 2015 | Posted by rebecca FCC Outlines Plan To Crush Awful State Protectionist Broadband Laws : from the it's-about-time dept by Karl Bode, Tech Dirt While net neutrality rules are designed to protect consumers from a lack of last-mile competition, the agency's moves on municipal broadband are intended to actually strike at the issue of limited competition at the root. As we've noted a few times, ISPs (with ALEC's help) have passed laws in twenty states preventing those towns and cities from deciding their own infrastructure needs for themselves. It's pure, unabashed protectionism: the bills do little more than protect regional duopolies from change while hamstringing local communities desperate for better service. Usually the laws are passed under the auspices of protecting taxpayers from themselves, ignoring that the bills' sole purpose is to protectduopoly revenues. TV and Internet Service Providers Deliver the Worst Customer Experience : Fifth Annual Temkin Experience Ratings Evaluates 293 Companies Across 20 Industries. ... Read the Full Roundup Here ... -- You can always find our most recent stories and other resources at http://MuniNetworks.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Community Networks Weekly Updates" group. 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Thanks RAN On 3/16/2015 11:05 AM, Shneor Sherman wrote: > Here are some per-mile costs: > http://www.itscosts.its.dot.gov/its/benecost.nsf/DisplayRUCByUnitCostElementUnadjusted?ReadForm&UnitCostElement=Fiber+Optic+Cable+Installation+&Subsystem=Roadside+Telecommunications+ > > Also > http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-rule-of-thumb-in-estimating-the-cost-to-build-out-a-dark-fiber-run > > (scroll down to read replies) > > Real life experience > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/09/17/how-chattanooga-beat-google-fiber-by-half-a-decade/ > > It looks like the max is probably $200K per mile, so for Davis, $32 million. 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Once you watch this great piece of German cinema, you will know everything that goes into doing a "fiber deployment." The sharing of the knowledge here is really great, produced by a German Fiber optic conduit company. Now we know why Europe is all fibered up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8bzZajwR50 ALSO - If you have any information to share, like links, or other things you are working on for the project, please make a note of it on the WiKi. Its a higher and longer lasting form of information presentation, than the email list. Go WIKI http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php -- Rob Nickerson CEO Om Networks UCD Class of 96 C: 530-848-3865 If we have helped you in a positive way, please give us a good recommendation at daviswiki.org , and/or yelp.com . Please like us on Facebook . and put us in your circle at Google+ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From omrob at omsoft.com Wed Mar 25 19:18:25 2015 From: omrob at omsoft.com (Robert Nickerson) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:18:25 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] Innovation Center Listening Tour In-Reply-To: <7C71726E-2B41-464C-AA14-6D1DA694D285@active4.me> References: <7C71726E-2B41-464C-AA14-6D1DA694D285@active4.me> Message-ID: <55136C71.4090509@omsoft.com> Hi This is an opportunity to go and bring up community fiber, and its a good venue to go and tell the public about the project. It seems the city is pretty interested, from what I can see so far, at moving a community fiber plan forward with good speed, for several reasons. We need to start being more public. A Davis Wiki Page, to refer folks over to DavisGig.org, and we also can get the City probably to bring it up as a topic at the site Jason Aller mentioned earlier, http://cityofdavis.mindmixer.com/ We could perhaps make a Poll out of it. What else do we think? Article for the Vanguard? Op Ed in the Enterprise? Press releases ? Thanks RAN On 3/21/2015 9:03 AM, Tim Starback wrote: > Hello All, > > In Fridays Enterprise there is an article about the council listening > tour for the Innovation Centers. > It?s listed as a ?casual, drop-in town hall meeting? which is perfect > for those of us who would rather not speak at city council meetings. > My personal feeling on this is that I don?t oppose the Innovation > Centers, but I think community fiber should come first. > These Centers need a public vote, if the city feels like there is > enough opposition to them, this might open some doors and get us > fast-tracked. > > If possible please drop by one of these events and let them know you > want FTTH > -------- > Tuesday March 31 7-8pm Activity Room at the Davis Senior Center, 646 a St. > Saturday April 11 11am to noon at the New Harmony apartment complex > 3030 Cowell Blvd > Wednesday May 27 6:30 to 7:30pm Emerson Junior High, 2121 Calaveras Ave > > http://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/council-starts-listening-tour-for-innovation-centers/ > > Thanks, > Tim > > > --------------------------- > www.active4.me > PO BOX 73311 > Davis CA 95617 > 530-402-8250 Ext. 101 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: > > http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start > > Davisgig mailing list > Davisgig at list.omsoft.com > http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig -- Rob Nickerson CEO Om Networks UCD Class of 96 C: 530-848-3865 If we have helped you in a positive way, please give us a good recommendation at daviswiki.org , and/or yelp.com . 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CInO encouraged us to continue our efforts around this goal, full speed ahead. CInO will be organizing 4 or so community "events" about this topic, we are encouraged to be at these events to offer our point of view as local experts. At least one of these events will have "providers invited" to offer their PoV. This definitely means SureWest, now CCI, and perhaps Comcast, ATT, and whatever others. A fair hearing of all fiber deployment strategies needs to be given in order for things to be passed. We were able to tell them the strengths of our model versus other deployment models, and they are aware of, other models, for instance, Chattanooga Gig, and SonicNet's build out in city of Brentwood and the arrangements it has made with the City government. DepCInO wants us to help articulate what the winning proposition that we need to deliver to the community to change the conversation from a when we get it, or if we get it, to a more urgent call to have it now. They understand that having this as a utility investment will help them in their efforts to foster locally based innovation, as well as bring in larger businesses that will come for the University and the Fiber. I was not able to ask some detailed questions, about the citys' offers from other vendors to do this, and about the feasibility study the council is looking to have done. BIG TAKE AWAY POINTS 1) The current model for funding this is through a parcel tax backed bond measure. Detractors are noted ;) Elections for a parcel tax can only be held on city council election, "elections." So June 2016 is the next election, and then the window is closed until June 2018. This gives us a target date for mustering the voter support and passing this vote in 06/2016. This is a good thing, timing is about right for something of this scale, and it helps frame our effort by giving us the next big goal point to work for. It also means we should actively move to get the council to approve this before hand so it is included for the ballot. 2) DepCInO indicates these measures pass when there are local "champions" that the community trusts to implement these types of projects, and a 66% pass rate was needed. 3) There is a wide disparity in numbers, City staff are thinking $100 million, we are thinking more like $30 million I'm sure there was other nuances I did not pick up on, but that is all my poor brain can think on now. -- Rob Nickerson CEO Om Networks UCD Class of 96 C: 530-848-3865 If we have helped you in a positive way, please give us a good recommendation at daviswiki.org , and/or yelp.com . Please like us on Facebook . and put us in your circle at Google+ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bill at broadley.org Wed Mar 25 20:38:16 2015 From: bill at broadley.org (Bill Broadley) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 20:38:16 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] City Staff Lunch In-Reply-To: <55136E22.9080002@omsoft.com> References: <55136E22.9080002@omsoft.com> Message-ID: <55137F28.1070108@broadley.org> Interesting lunch. I wasn't taking notes, corrections welcome. My read is that City of Davis wants this to happen. If we can generate the demand and sell it to the community they will do what is needed on their end. If it's not our proposal. it's likely to be something else that meets similar goals. Depending on how the proposal is written, to be passed it needs either 50% or 66% of the votes. They mentioned that there are 24,000 or so residential parcels in Davis and 6,000 or so business. They also mentioned that 3-5 year projects seem best, and that the project should be self sufficient after that period. So it's a one time tax, not forever. I found this URL: http://www.businessinsider.com/t30e-cost-of-building-google-fiber-2013-4 This URL claims that google brought internet, fiber, and tv to 149,000 homes for $84M. Scaled to 30,000 parcels that's $17M, assuming we can do so at the same cost per household. Other data points are needed, but certainly sounds like $30M or less is a reasonable estimate. $30M / (30,000 parcels * 5 years) = $200 a year per parcel. Of course less would be an easier sell to the voters. From dawalter at dcn.org Wed Mar 25 20:57:17 2015 From: dawalter at dcn.org (Douglas A. Walter) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 20:57:17 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] City Staff Lunch In-Reply-To: <55137F28.1070108@broadley.org> References: <55136E22.9080002@omsoft.com> <55137F28.1070108@broadley.org> Message-ID: Hi all. Taking the notes from Robert and Bill together, I don't have too much to add. So thank you two for doing such a good job, both during lunch and in making reports. There's a whole lot of politics and lawyering that will go into making a parcel tax proposal -- and we don't need to sweat the details right now. Rather, we need to realize how big a deal this will be, how big a fight we can expect from telco/cable companies, and how great the rewards can be. One point I hadn't fully grasped is that Davis does have one municipal utility right now: our water provider. Oh, and did you know that there's been mild controversy around that subject recently?? [I'm making a joke; anyone who wants to hear about CBFR and other non-Gig trivia and write me off list.] I'm really glad we've started working up our web page. As Rob indicated, there are a number of ways we need to re-pack and re-use these points. The "listening tour" is one important opportunity. On Mar 25, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Bill Broadley wrote: > > Interesting lunch. I wasn't taking notes, corrections welcome. > > My read is that City of Davis wants this to happen. If we can generate > the demand and sell it to the community they will do what is needed on > their end. If it's not our proposal. it's likely to be something else > that meets similar goals. > > Depending on how the proposal is written, to be passed it needs either > 50% or 66% of the votes. > > They mentioned that there are 24,000 or so residential parcels in Davis > and 6,000 or so business. They also mentioned that 3-5 year projects > seem best, and that the project should be self sufficient after that > period. So it's a one time tax, not forever. > > I found this URL: > http://www.businessinsider.com/t30e-cost-of-building-google-fiber-2013-4 > > This URL claims that google brought internet, fiber, and tv to 149,000 > homes for $84M. Scaled to 30,000 parcels that's $17M, assuming we can > do so at the same cost per household. > > Other data points are needed, but certainly sounds like $30M or less is > a reasonable estimate. $30M / (30,000 parcels * 5 years) = $200 a year > per parcel. Of course less would be an easier sell to the voters. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: > > http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start > > Davisgig mailing list > Davisgig at list.omsoft.com > http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig -- ?Sing the names of the dead who brought us here, who laid the train tracks, raised the bridges, picked the cotton and the lettuce, built brick by brick the glittering edifices they would then keep clean and work inside of.? -- Elizabeth Alexander Doug Walter ? dawalter at dcn.org ? (home address) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From szsherm at yahoo.com Thu Mar 26 00:14:34 2015 From: szsherm at yahoo.com (Shneor Sherman) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 00:14:34 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] Innovation Center Listening Tour In-Reply-To: <55136C71.4090509@omsoft.com> Message-ID: <1427354074.52046.YahooMailBasic@web161704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> OpEd in the Enterprise is the best bet. But it will take some thought to put it together. Most importantly, the expected benefits need to be spelled out. Where are the positive reviews from citizens who have been through this already in other communities? Does the city plan to run this? (I sure hope not). What are the local business benefits? Would this attract clean industry and how much might add to city revenues? What about the business model? I'm just scratching the surface. Shneor Sherman -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 3/25/15, Robert Nickerson wrote: Subject: Re: [Davisgig] Innovation Center Listening Tour To: davisgig at list.omsoft.com Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2015, 7:18 PM Hi This is an opportunity to go and bring up community fiber, and its? a good venue to go and tell the public about the project. It seems the city is pretty interested, from what I can see so far, at moving? a community fiber plan forward with? good speed, for several reasons. We need to start being more public. A Davis Wiki Page, to refer folks over to DavisGig.org, and we also can get the City probably to bring it up as a topic at the site Jason Aller mentioned earlier, http://cityofdavis.mindmixer.com/ We could perhaps make a Poll out of it. What else do we think? Article for the Vanguard? Op Ed in the Enterprise? Press releases ? Thanks RAN On 3/21/2015 9:03 AM, Tim Starback wrote: Hello All, In Fridays Enterprise there is an article about the council listening tour for the Innovation Centers. It?s listed as a ?casual, drop-in town hall meeting? which is perfect for those of us who would rather not speak at city council meetings. My personal feeling on this is that I don?t oppose the Innovation Centers, but I think community fiber should come first. These Centers need a public vote, if the city feels like there is enough opposition to them, this might open some doors and get us fast-tracked. If possible please drop by one of these events and let them know you want FTTH -------- Tuesday March 31 7-8pm Activity Room at the Davis Senior Center, 646 a St. Saturday April 11 11am to noon at the New Harmony apartment complex 3030 Cowell Blvd Wednesday May 27 6:30 to 7:30pm Emerson Junior High, 2121 Calaveras Ave http://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/council-starts-listening-tour-for-innovation-centers/ Thanks, Tim --------------------------- www.active4.me PO BOX 73311 Davis CA 95617 530-402-8250 Ext. 101 _______________________________________________ Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start Davisgig mailing list Davisgig at list.omsoft.com http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig -- Rob Nickerson CEO Om Networks UCD Class of 96 C: 530-848-3865 If we have helped you in a positive way, please give us a good recommendation at daviswiki.org, and/or yelp.com. Please like us on Facebook. and put us in your circle at Google+ -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start Davisgig mailing list Davisgig at list.omsoft.com http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig From wes at hardakers.net Mon Mar 30 14:58:41 2015 From: wes at hardakers.net (Wes Hardaker) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 14:58:41 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts on "why the average user needs this" Message-ID: <0lwq1yrvu6.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net> I'm a geek, I run lots of stuff from my house and I know there has been discussions that this is not good enough for the average user. So I've been thinking a lot about this and thinking about why does the average person might want a super fast network. Then I started thinking of the kids (those kids that stand on my lawn all day). The one huge thing that has been taking off lately is the usage of uploading video content to youtube, vimeo, etc. But it's not just video-streaming for hangouts/skype/etc (which you can do over a minimal connection). It's high quality videos of screen-sharing videos that kids are creating that take forever to upload. For example, my son has created a bunch of minecraft tutorials and even though the videos themselves were only 10-20 minutes long, he complained greatly when he learned they'd take an hour each to upload or so. And I have about the fastest DSL rate you can get to my house. And he's not the only teen-ager doing this kind of thing. It seems to be fairly popular to do right now and would be a good data point for our efforts here. And I suspect more and more of the population will be doing these sort of things, like recording and uploading family videos, etc. And having to tie up the connection for hours is just frustrating. One way to lead the pack is to advertise that we could enable long distance connection sharing and family history archiving better via the new speeds. ... random thoughts -- Wes Hardaker My Pictures: http://capturedonearth.com/ My Thoughts: http://pontifications.hardakers.net/ From steve at dcn.org Mon Mar 30 15:14:44 2015 From: steve at dcn.org (Steve McMahon) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 15:14:44 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts on "why the average user needs this" In-Reply-To: <0lwq1yrvu6.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net> References: <0lwq1yrvu6.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net> Message-ID: I just wanted to pitch in that I think Wes' argument is very important. Connections made available via the local duopoly are generally very asymmetric. They are about (passive or semi-passive) consumption of media, not production or participation. We can do better. On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Wes Hardaker wrote: > > I'm a geek, I run lots of stuff from my house and I know there has been > discussions that this is not good enough for the average user. So I've > been thinking a lot about this and thinking about why does the average > person might want a super fast network. Then I started thinking of the > kids (those kids that stand on my lawn all day). > > The one huge thing that has been taking off lately is the usage of > uploading video content to youtube, vimeo, etc. But it's not just > video-streaming for hangouts/skype/etc (which you can do over a minimal > connection). It's high quality videos of screen-sharing videos that > kids are creating that take forever to upload. For example, my son > has created a bunch of minecraft tutorials and even though the videos > themselves were only 10-20 minutes long, he complained greatly when he > learned they'd take an hour each to upload or so. And I have about the > fastest DSL rate you can get to my house. And he's not the only > teen-ager doing this kind of thing. It seems to be fairly popular to do > right now and would be a good data point for our efforts here. > > And I suspect more and more of the population will be doing these sort > of things, like recording and uploading family videos, etc. And having > to tie up the connection for hours is just frustrating. One way to lead > the pack is to advertise that we could enable long distance connection > sharing and family history archiving better via the new speeds. > > ... random thoughts > > -- > Wes Hardaker > My Pictures: http://capturedonearth.com/ > My Thoughts: http://pontifications.hardakers.net/ > _______________________________________________ > > Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: > > http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start > > Davisgig mailing list > Davisgig at list.omsoft.com > http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tim at active4.me Tue Mar 31 06:29:19 2015 From: tim at active4.me (Tim Starback) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 06:29:19 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts on "why the average user needs this" In-Reply-To: <0lwq1yrvu6.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net> References: <0lwq1yrvu6.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net> Message-ID: <35965CEC-A8C2-4CA3-B329-CEAB7C393AE2@active4.me> This is a great point! We might consider including teens in our outreach efforts. They deal with network lag every day and are potentially our best allies to help educate parents and friends. BTW I want a lawn sign ?Ask me about Davis Fiber? too soon?? Tim > On Mar 30, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Wes Hardaker wrote: > > > I'm a geek, I run lots of stuff from my house and I know there has been > discussions that this is not good enough for the average user. So I've > been thinking a lot about this and thinking about why does the average > person might want a super fast network. Then I started thinking of the > kids (those kids that stand on my lawn all day). > > The one huge thing that has been taking off lately is the usage of > uploading video content to youtube, vimeo, etc. But it's not just > video-streaming for hangouts/skype/etc (which you can do over a minimal > connection). It's high quality videos of screen-sharing videos that > kids are creating that take forever to upload. For example, my son > has created a bunch of minecraft tutorials and even though the videos > themselves were only 10-20 minutes long, he complained greatly when he > learned they'd take an hour each to upload or so. And I have about the > fastest DSL rate you can get to my house. And he's not the only > teen-ager doing this kind of thing. It seems to be fairly popular to do > right now and would be a good data point for our efforts here. > > And I suspect more and more of the population will be doing these sort > of things, like recording and uploading family videos, etc. And having > to tie up the connection for hours is just frustrating. One way to lead > the pack is to advertise that we could enable long distance connection > sharing and family history archiving better via the new speeds. > > ... random thoughts > > -- > Wes Hardaker > My Pictures: http://capturedonearth.com/ > My Thoughts: http://pontifications.hardakers.net/ > _______________________________________________ > > Please ref our wiki for details, documents and contacts: > > http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~help/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start > > Davisgig mailing list > Davisgig at list.omsoft.com > http://list.omsoft.com/mailman/listinfo/davisgig -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at dcn.org Tue Mar 31 17:26:30 2015 From: steve at dcn.org (Steve McMahon) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 17:26:30 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts on "why the average user needs this" In-Reply-To: <1427783849.22953.YahooMailBasic@web161701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1427783849.22953.YahooMailBasic@web161701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good questions. The economics of gigabit are different from cable/dsl. Cable/DSL is dealing with very low bandwidth connections to the premises. They have to optimize for a particular purpose, and for consumers they make it asymmetric with a very strong bias to downloads. (Their business model also pictures homes as media consumers, not producers -- like cable.) They sell a different package to businesses, often needing to provide special connections higher fixed and variable costs. Very high bandwidth connection to premises as infrastructure changes the economics. It's no longer the fixed capital component that's the limiting factor. In an open-access model, different Internet connection providers compete in their Internet connection offerings mainly based on their variable costs. So, the fixed cost for a house and a business aren't much different, though the business might pay more for higher bandwidth use. So, the competing open-access providers may offer different packages to consumers vs business, but the infrastructure cost is the same. That said, this does really affect how we look at municipal financing. If a tax is based on living units, that would leave businesses out. If we had to use such a tax to bootstrap the infrastructure bill, it would then certainly be appropriate to have different connection terms for anyone who didn't invest via their taxes. If municipal infrastructure was financed by a city bond, paid back via monthly charges for those using the service, then there's no economic reason for charging businesses differently for their part of the fixed costs. By the way, these arguments only apply to municipal gig; they would have nothing to do with financing of high-speed connections to new business parks. Steve On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Shneor Sherman wrote: > If there really are 6,000 busineses in Davis, all could benefit from > having high-speed internet - browse a store visually with data available at > the touch of a finger, for retail, for example. The burden should be shared > by businesses, not just paid for by homeowners. > > Shneor Sherman > -------------------------------------------- > On Mon, 3/30/15, Steve McMahon wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Davisgig] Thoughts on "why the average user needs this" > To: "davisgig at list.omsoft.com" > Date: Monday, March 30, 2015, 3:14 PM > > I just > wanted to pitch in that I think Wes' argument is very > important. Connections made available via the local duopoly > are generally very asymmetric. They are about (passive or > semi-passive) consumption of media, not production or > participation. We can do better. > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at > 2:58 PM, Wes Hardaker > wrote: > > > I'm a geek, I run lots of stuff from my house and I know > there has been > > discussions that this is not good enough for the average > user. So I've > > been thinking a lot about this and thinking about why does > the average > > person might want a super fast network. Then I started > thinking of the > > kids (those kids that stand on my lawn all day). > > > > The one huge thing that has been taking off lately is the > usage of > > uploading video content to youtube, vimeo, etc. But > it's not just > > video-streaming for hangouts/skype/etc (which you can do > over a minimal > > connection). It's high quality videos of > screen-sharing videos that > > kids are creating that take forever to upload. For > example, my son > > has created a bunch of minecraft tutorials and even though > the videos > > themselves were only 10-20 minutes long, he complained > greatly when he > > learned they'd take an hour each to upload or so. And > I have about the > > fastest DSL rate you can get to my house. And he's not > the only > > teen-ager doing this kind of thing. 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URL: From bill at broadley.org Tue Mar 31 18:15:47 2015 From: bill at broadley.org (Bill Broadley) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 18:15:47 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts on "why the average user needs this" In-Reply-To: <0lwq1yrvu6.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net> References: <0lwq1yrvu6.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net> Message-ID: <551B46C3.7060101@broadley.org> Other pain points, besides the mentioned upstream bandwidth: 1) Monthly bills that increase several times a year and can double over 2 years, unless you complain 2) Access policies that prohibit sharing your internet 3) Low quotas enforced randomly. Comcast lists 250GB, but that it's not currently enforced. At my download rate (100mbit) you can run that out in 3 hours. My wife, kid, and I currently are using around 300GB a month (301 in Jan, 306GB in Feb). Even with zero torrenting and zero file sharing I often exceed 300GB a month. Our network use includes a 2 desktops, a tablet, 2 smart phones, and a roku. Things like an xbox, steam account (gaming), video conf/hangouts, video skype, or even consumer electronics can trigger substantial bandwidth usage. One evening the #1 user of bandwidth in my home was my stereo, downloading a firmware update. Comcast is currently testing overage charges in test markets, currently around $10 per 50GB. That's pretty pricey when a single game download for the PS4 can use 40GB. 4) Holding users hostage, promising fast access to "the internet". Then comcast turns around and cripples the network connection to netflix. For awhile the best way to watch netflix was to VPN elsewhere, just to get the bandwidth you paid for. 5) horrible customer service The reasons for the above are primarily a result of a lack of choice. With competition consumers can expect better service, more flexibility, lower pricing, and offerings tailored more for your needs. Comcast is one of the worst hated companies in the USA, the reason they get away with it is because in most markets there's no competition. From bill at broadley.org Tue Mar 31 18:17:37 2015 From: bill at broadley.org (Bill Broadley) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 18:17:37 -0700 Subject: [Davisgig] Thoughts on "why the average user needs this" In-Reply-To: References: <1427783849.22953.YahooMailBasic@web161701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <551B4731.5060305@broadley.org> On 03/31/2015 05:26 PM, Steve McMahon wrote: [snip] > the competing open-access providers may offer different packages to > consumers vs business, but the infrastructure cost is the same. Infrastructure costs the same, so we should charge the same. After all we are talking only about running fiber+infrastructure and allowing ISPs to buy access. > That said, this does really affect how we look at municipal financing. If a > tax is based on living units, that would leave businesses out. If we had to I believe the proposed tax is based on parcels, of which there are 30,000 in davis, 6,000 owned by businesses. There seemed to be very little flexibility on this because of the restrictions on how the city can raise funds for a project like this. > If municipal infrastructure was financed by a city bond, paid back via > monthly charges for those using the service, then there's no economic > reason for charging businesses differently for their part of the fixed > costs. Right, so business parcel tax is the same as the rest. They might well pay ISPs more for a business class connection to get better support, reverse DNS, larger bandwidth quotas, more IP addresses, VPN access, etc. From christopher at newrules.org Tue Mar 31 13:17:48 2015 From: christopher at newrules.org (Christopher Mitchell) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:17:48 -0500 Subject: [Davisgig] Recently in Community Networks... Week of 3/31 Message-ID: *Recent Stories from MuniNetworks.org - a project of the Institute for Local Self-Reliance. Instructions for unsubscribing appear at bottom. Send feedback. Forward Widely.* Small Illinois Town Will Vote On Fiber Investment in April Tue, March 24, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez The Village of Gilberts, Illinois, will ask voters in April to authorize up to $5 million in General Obligation bonds to deploy a FTTH network reports the Daily Herald . GO bonds are rarely used for network deployment but often used for public works projects and other publicly owned assets. Due to the funding mechanism in Gilberts, the network would be publicly owned. "It's something that is not readily available in other communities," Village Administrator Ray Keller said. "It would set us apart and put us on a path to better meet the needs of our residents and businesses as their demands and needs for technology grows." The community, home to 6,800 people, has experienced rapid population growth since 2000. At that time only 1,200 people lived in this northeast Kane County village. ... Get the Rest of the Details Here ... Explaining the FCC Muni Order Removing State Barriers - Community Broadband Bits Episode 143 Tue, March 24, 2015 | Posted by christopher After anticipating this moment for many months, we have a ruling from the FCC that has restored local authority to build and expand networks in North Carolina and Tennessee. Though we have already pulled out the key passages for readers, we wanted to discuss the decision with Jim Baller of Baller, Herbst, Stokes, & Lide . Jim worked with Wilson and Chattanooga in crafting their petitions and sat down with me last week at the Iowa Association of Municipal Utilities Broadband Conference in Des Moines last week. We went over the key issues in the ruling, including why the FCC had authority to take action, how the state laws limited investment in advanced Internet networks, the impact of the ruling, and what comes next. See our other podcasts with Jim as well as articles that we tagged him in here . Read the FCC's Memorandum and Order here [pdf] . ... Listen to the Show Here ... Read the transcript from our conversation here ... Lafayette Considers Expansion, One Nearby Town Strikes Itself From List Wed, March 25, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez We have long applauded communities that have built their own fiber networks and then elect to expand them to neighboring communities. In Louisiana for example, Lafayette could hoard its network, forcing people that want the best connectivity in the region to move within its borders. But instead, it is preparing to expand the network. City-Parish President Joey Durel announced that the municipal network would begin expanding beyond Lafayette city limits. An article in *The Advocate* quoted Durel : ?As I have traveled this parish, one of the most common things I am asked is, ?When will we get fiber?? That answer depended in large part on making fiber successful in Lafayette. We?re there,? Durel told the crowd that filled the Cajundome Convention Center. ... Read Our Full Story Here ... Listen to Our Interview with Terry Huval ... Bristol City Council Passes Resolution Supporting Bill to End Tennessee Muni Barriers Mon, March 23, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez At its March 3rd City Council meeting, elected leaders in Bristol voted 4 - 1 to adopt resolution 15 - 8 reported TriCities.com . The resolution officially supports state legislation removing state barriers that prevent municipal electric utilities from offering Internet service beyond their electric service footprint. State Senator Janice Bowling and Representative Kevin Brooks are sponsoring SB 1134 and its companion HB 1303 [PDF]. Bristol Tennessee Essential Services (BTES) is one of the state's gigabit FTTH networks but like Chattanooga, is limited by state geographic restrictions. The recent FCC decision to overturn Tennessee and North Carolina state barriers has removed that legal provision but Bowling and Brooks want to make sure it happens and that Tennessee is able to embrace smarter policy without FCC intervention. ... Read the Resolution and More of the Story Here ... Tennessee Files Appeal to FCC Order Scaling Back State Barriers Tue, March 24, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez The State of Tennessee has filed the first appeal to the recent FCC Opinion and Order [PDF] reducing state barriers to municipal broadband. Governor Bill Haslam appears determined to keep his constituents in the Internet slow lane. The state filed the short petition on March 20th arguing [view the petition on Scribd. ]: The State of Tennessee, as a sovereign and a party to the proceeding below, is aggrieved and seeks relief on the grounds that the Order: (1) is contrary to the United States Constitution; (2) is in excess of the Commission?s authority; (3) is arbitrary, capricious, and an abuse of discretion within the meaning of the Administrative Procedure Act; and (4) is otherwise contrary to law. Haslam expressed his intention to explore the possibility of filing the appeal earlier this month reported the Times Free Press . In February, the Governor and Tennessee Attorney General Herbert Slatery signed a letter from a number of state officials to the FCC urging them not to change state law. U.S. Rep from Tennessee Marsha Blackburn and her Senate counterpart Thom Tillis introduced legislation to fight the Order just days after the FCC decision. ... Read Our Full Coverage Here ... Hudson Developing Plans for Muni Fiber Open Access Network in Ohio Thu, March 26, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez Hudson is moving ahead with plans to develop a publicly owned fiber network,reports the Hub Times . The City Council recently approved a contract with a consultant to develop a conceptual design, implement the plan, and recruit service providers interested in operating over an open access network. In January, the town of about 23,000 conducted a residential and business survey to determine the overall state of broadband in the community. At a February meeting, the Council reviewed the survey results. Almost 1,000 residents and 133 businesses answered the survey which revealed that Internet services were lacking in coverage, speed, performance, and reliability. >From a February Hub Times article : Hudson's small and medium business community reported many issues with their current broadband services, citing poor reliability and performance as negatively affecting their ability to do business in the city. Many businesses wanted to upgrade to a better service but found that they could not afford to do so. ... Learn More About Their Approach Here ... Amherst, Massachusetts Exploring Fiber for Economic Development Downtown Fri, March 27, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez The Amherst Business Improvement District (BID) recently hired a firm to prepare an engineering study aimed at bringing fiber connectivity to its downtown reports MassLive. In 2007, the community began offering free Wi-Fi downtown after receiving a grant from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and the National Science Foundation (NSF) to build a wireless mesh network. The city worked with UMass Amherst, DARPA, and NSF to deploy the system. In 2013, the city invested in upgrades which increased speeds and extended the network's geographic coverage area. Community leaders feel Amherst needs fiber to boost economic development now and in the future. ... Read More About Amherst's Approach Here ... Orlando Sentinel Op-Ed - Local governments should make broadband choices Mon, March 23, 2015 | Posted by rebecca *The Orlando Sentinel published this op-ed about local government action for broadband networks on March 11, 2015. * *Local governments should make broadband choices By Christopher Mitchell* *Community broadband must be a local choice, a guest columnist writes.* When Comcast announced plans last year to invest hundreds of millions in theme parks in Florida and California, its customers may have wondered why the cable giant wasn't using those funds to deliver a faster or more reliable Internet connection. While Comcast's Universal Studios faces competition from Walt Disney World, most people don't have a real choice in high-speed Internet access. ... Read the Full Op-ed Here ... Fiber Forum in Yellow Springs Will Share Info on Munis With Ohio Community Wed, March 25, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez Join Chris and several other experts on municipal networks on April 25th as they address a crowd in Yellow Springs, Ohio. Yellow-Springs.Net , a group of residents who have rallied together to organize a movement to explore broadband as a utility in their community, will host the Fiber Forum. The event is titled*"Building a Municipal Fiber Network in Yellow Springs." *Chris will be joining via Skype for his presentation. YSNews described the event : The forum will provide community members with insights on the advantages of having a municipal broadband network that would translate into high-speed, affordable Internet access in Yellow Springs. Springs-Net posits that, by optimizing Internet access with fiber, the Village would address strategic, economic, communication and municipal service goals. ... More Information Here ... Freedom to Connect - Long Term Muni Strategies Sat, March 28, 2015 | Posted by lgonzalez If you were not able to attend Freedom to Connect in New York on March 2 - 3 , you can now view archived video of presentations from Chris and others. Now that the FCC has made a determination that may change the landscape of Internet access, it is time to consider the future of municipal networks. In this discussion, Chris discusses passive infrastructure, including dark fiber and open access models as a way to encourage competition on the local level. Chris also looks at financing municipal networks in a fashion that takes into account public benefits created by fiber. He suggests steps elected officials can take now that will contribute to long term ubiquitous access in their communities. You can also watch videos from other presenters including Joanne Hovis, Hannah Sassaman, and Jim Baller at the F2C: Freedom to Connect 2015 Livestream page . ... Watch the Video of Christopher's Presentation Here ... Community Broadband Media Roundup - March 27 Sun, March 29, 2015 | Posted by rebecca This article is so good, it was hard not to quote the whole thing. Do yourself a favor and check out the article for yourself-- this is exactly why we can?t trust big cable and telephone companies to serve our communities. New Homeowner Has To Sell House Because Of Comcast?s Incompetence, Lack Of Competition by Chris Morran at the Consumerist: Only months after moving into his new home in Washington state, Consumerist reader Seth is already looking to sell his house. He didn?t lose his job or discover that the property is haunted. No, Seth can?t stay much longer because no one can provide broadband service to his address; even though Comcast and CenturyLink both misled him into thinking he?d be connected to their networks and in spite of the fact that his county runs a high-speed fiberoptic network that goes very near to his property. 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